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OH HAI SEXISM
- EvilTrout 15y agoI'm not sure why, but this article and supporting discussion was removed: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3739913 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3739913
- icebraining 15y agoProbably flagged too much.
- whyleyc 15y agoIt was removed twice - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3740378 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3740378 I don't know why it keeps being flagged - there are loads of relevant issues at play here: - Why sexism is a real issue within I.T. - How Twitter can amplify customer criticism - How (not) to handle complaints
- mayneack 15y agoLoading this article was a colossal fail on my android. All I could see was the title, a bunch of floating random boxes, and the facebook comments at the bottom.
- asto 15y agoSame problem on my blackberry.
- asto 15y agoI felt they're all behaving rather immaturely.
- b0sk 15y agoI agree, though, as founders of geeklist.. the two gents are held to a higher standard and they utterly failed. It seems Shanley interviewed with them initially and didn't get the job? Maybe, that's the start of the issue.
- JS_startup 15y agoOh hey, a stupid slapfight on Twitter. Frankly, Shanley was really offensive in her approach and Christian's responses seem pretty measured. Not sure what the big deal is.
- MartinCron 15y agoIt's not really better to say a horrible thing in a nice way than to say virtuous thing an an aggressive way.
- drivebyacct2 15y agoChristian's responses are measured, but they're a long way from being the correct response. The first big paragraph in the article is right. Christian had a perfect opportunity to turn this into a PR SUCCESS and instead decided to attack the method of criticism and attempt to shift the blame of the tasteless ad onto someone else. It's tacky and easy to see through. He could have ended the conversation there by offering to take a look at the video and instead decided to turn it into a meta-"you're being mean" discussion that so often happens on reddit where... sure enough... 30 minutes later, people are bickering about meta aspects of the discussion instead of the original issue.
- b0sk 15y agoYes. Multiple opportunities to take the high road.
- JS_startup 15y agoI agree that it was a PR blunder, but I don't agree with the accusations of sexism (anyone else noticed the sexist witchhunt that's been started since the Boston code jam fiasco?) The story should have been framed as a PR misstep, not a calculated attack against women. I'd say Shanley's crass behavior gives women a much worse name than the girl who showed some skin for a commercial.
- drivebyacct2 15y agoI agree that there is less forethought or less "malice" in this advertisement versus one that outright lists women as a perk, but again, this is hard to continue to repeat everywhere. You see an ad, it's the 20th ad you've seen this week that reminds you that you're a commodity. You're eye-candy used to move a product for horny men who, apparently, buy with the brain in their pants instead of the one in their head. It plays into sexism that is not just anti-women but anti-men in my opinion.
- rabble 15y agoSo the video in question got pulled offline, so now none of us who missed it can tell if it was sexist or not. Kind of ironic.
- MartinCron 15y agoBecause a woman dancing to dubstep music in her underwear to promote a technology brand may or may not be sexist?
- MartinCron 15y agoFrom the official apology: We apologize as well if our handling of the tweets offended anyone. One of the things that I hate most in the world is when people use the word "if" in an apology. You should either make a real apology about being offensive, or stand your ground.
- lomegor 15y agoThis. The same thing happened with the Boston Jam thing, and many other cases.
- josefnpat 15y agoThe video in question has been made private, but somehow one can still access it via the group. http://vimeo.com/groups/eos7d/videos/27758336 http://vimeo.com/groups/eos7d/videos/27758336
- ryandvm 15y agoThe world would be a better place if people spent less time being offended.
- prodigal_erik 15y agoOr doing offensive stuff. Using sex appeal to promote non-sexy things is kind of a dark side move.
- moizsyed 14y agoI don't know how anyone in the right mind can defend the geeklist guys.. the video is offensive but worse, the response on twitter is subtly threatening and childish. Sad.