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For all your arguments, not a single source cited, real convincing (that's sarcasm, just so you understand). Also, got to love how you skip over and change your

For all your arguments, not a single source cited, real convincing (that's sarcasm, just so you understand). Also, got to love how you skip over and change your arguments as they are proved wrong; moving the goal posts much? > > because the coming regulations will compel those exchanges working with crypto to force you to use KYC to cash out your cryptocurrencies, even your cold wallet isn't safe from this. > Dam bro, didn't know that the world government mandated this. Also "coming regulations" - So its still private. Thanks for the conformation! And your response: Nothing! > Significant volatile prices and regular manipulative depeggings of stablecoins > Ok bro. And your response: Nothing! Good thing I use only BTC and Monero! >> You're also ignoring the truth that they aren't private, so my point still stands and you know it. >Private is defined as "Secluded from the sight, presence, or intrusion of others." >I buy my bitcoin with cash, no kyc, and I coinjoin it. That's private. And your response: "using card to buy bitcoin...isn't private". Dam nice reading comprehension skills. > > You even admit it is at the very least "pseudonymous"! Thanks for the support! > So you can be traced. Not private at all, exactly. Source? Or are you just taking out of your ass? Here are my steps, explain, step-by-step how you would track me down: 1. Buy Bitcoin from a BitcoinATM with Cash, no kyc and there are no cameras in the places I visit. I scan my QR code (which is off to the side, so no face), give it cash and its sent to my new wallet 2. I coinjoin the bitcoin 3. Profit Go ahead, with sources. > Crypto ATMs are also not private and shutting down starting with the UK and other countries. This is all due to KYC / AML requirements, pushing you to inevitably do the above. Sources? Also I don't live in Europe so not a problem. Also, even if I did KYC, coinjoin and cryptocurrency tumbler would take care of that. Explain how you would defeat this, with sources. > > How do you pay for a cash ransom when someone is holding you hostage? > Oh wait, you can do it normally. > Answering your own question because you know you can't answer mine is a nice deflection. If not crypto, giftcards will work in a pinch (personal, smaller than $5,000) [2]. And for larger amounts, what I already cited works. [1] > SEC v Ripple case isn't finished at all Thanks, Sherlock. Never said it was or wasn't. > No matter how hard you try and cut corners or ignore it, crypto will be brought under regulations, the US is just slower than most other countries. Any sources? Also, don't live in the US. >> The internet is not the real world > Tell that to Google, Microsoft, Apple... etc [4]. Welcome to the age of technology. And your response, for the third time: Nothing! Stop making stuff up. Cite your sources. [1]: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2021/12/ftc-data-show-major-increase-gift-cards-scam-payment-method https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2021/12/...

colesantiago 3y ago
All of what you said isn't convincing at all that this is the future of money as you claim. Not even your extremely out of date sources are convincing. Look at yourself, it sounds laughly like this is the future for criminals to transact with, Crypto ATMs, Gift Cards, Coinjoins, No Cameras, Monero, etc. Interesting that you go through all this desperate lengths for magic beans that you trust any old random Bitcoin ATM that could be built by anyone [1]. Yes, you guessed it, it can be traced [2]. [1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-atm-firm-profited-from-crypto-scams-via-unlicensed-kiosks-secret-service https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-atm-firm-profited-fro... [2] https://hub.elliptic.co/analysis/fraud-and-scams-involving-bitcoin-atms/ https://hub.elliptic.co/analysis/fraud-and-scams-involving-b... You can expect me to be laughing when another crypto crash happens and you'll be sprinting to the nearest Bitcoin ATM. > Any sources? Also, don't live in the US. India: https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/indias-push-regulate-crypto-gains-imf-us-support-g20-2023-02-25/ https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/indias-push-regulat... UK: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-sets-out-plans-to-regulate-crypto-and-protect-consumers https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-sets-out-plans-to-regu... Singapore: https://blockworks.co/news/crypto-singapore-license-standards https://blockworks.co/news/crypto-singapore-license-standard... > If not crypto, giftcards will work in a pinch (personal, smaller than $5,000) [2]. And for larger amounts, what I already cited works. [1] Except gift cards don't work at scale. Crypto is way easier for criminals and is responsible for the amplification of ransomware which is on the rise. https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/366544598/Chainalysis-observes-sharp-rise-in-ransomware-payments https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/366544598/Cha... There is no upside to crypto at all and no normal person will perform / practice the fools errand that criminals and delusional utopian extreme individuals like yourself would engage in.
- ColoursofOSINT 3y ago
  >Yes, you guessed it, it can be traced [2]. No really, bitcoin transactions can be seen? That's literally one of the main points of a blockchain. OMG, 8t9f8ibsfousghs sent 1 btc to 8o7tagoraiho8argf! Lmao, this tells you nothing about the wallet owner. That tells you nothing about to whom it's going, and even if you could that why I: > 2. I coinjoin the bitcoin Going to skip over this again? No answer, buddy? > [2] Lmao, your own source, says "flow of funds from a Bitcoin ATM to.... Bitcoin mixing service known as Bitcoin Fog". And that's where the trail ends. Seems that the mixers and coinjoins are working. Read your own source before posting. Even with KYC, it doesn't matter. > India Singapore UK Mixers and coinjoins were made for these situations in mind. Still has no impact on me. > [1] Owners were aware fraud was going on and let it continue. Remind you of anyone [1-6]? I guess you shouldn't touch any sort of bank. They've been known to collapse and commit fraud on a massive scale. [7] You can expect me to be laughing when another bank crash happens and you'll be sprinting to the nearest ATM. > > If not crypto, giftcards will work in a pinch (personal, smaller than $5,000) [2]. > Except gift cards don't work at scale. Source? And they do. [8] $233 million/year in one country. [9] And that's just social engineering, could do far more if there is an actual reason to pay. > There is no upside to crypto at all I can pay for the services I already listed in an above comment, without handing over my information to be breached or sold. Are you a bot? We already had this conversation. You claimed that: >>>>> Nobody accepts Monero, Bitcoin in the real world I listed a few for you. >>>> Kagi, vps providers, domain hosters, non-profits, email providers... To which you said: >>> The internet is not the real world. And then hid from my response about >> Tell that to Google, Microsoft, Apple... etc [4]. Welcome to the age of technology. And once again you are hiding from: >And your response, for the third time: Nothing! Lmao, I can just use the same arguments since you are so scared of them! This is the third time you have skipped over the same point because you are wrong. Not to mention the other ones which I already pointed out. Going to keep running? [1]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-20/swedbank-reportedly-behind-4-3-billion-in-suspicious-transfers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-20/swedbank-... [2]: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-bank-faces-action-over-20bn-russian-money-laundering-scheme https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-ba... [3]:https://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/business/bank-settles-us-inquiry-into-money-laundering.html https://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/business/bank-settles-us-... [4]: https://archive.nytimes.com/dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/bnp-paribas-pleads-guilty-in-sanctions-case/ https://archive.nytimes.com/dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/... [5]: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/bank-america-pay-1665-billion-historic-justice-department-settlement-financial-fraud-leading https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/bank-america-pay-1665-billion... [6]: https://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/2013/investing-news-for-jan-29-hsbcs-money-laundering-scandal-hbc-scbff-ing-cs-rbs0129.aspx https://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/2013/investing-n... [7]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banking_crises https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banking_crises [8]: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/gift-card-scams/ https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/gift-card-sc... [9]: https://www.rd.com/article/gift-card-scams/ https://www.rd.com/article/gift-card-scams/

colesantiago 3y ago

All of what you said isn't convincing at all that this is the future of money as you claim. Not even your extremely out of date sources are convincing. Look at yourself, it sounds laughly like this is the future for criminals to transact with, Crypto ATMs, Gift Cards, Coinjoins, No Cameras, Monero, etc. Interesting that you go through all this desperate lengths for magic beans that you trust any old random Bitcoin ATM that could be built by anyone [1]. Yes, you guessed it, it can be traced [2]. [1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-atm-firm-profited-from-crypto-scams-via-unlicensed-kiosks-secret-service https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-atm-firm-profited-fro... [2] https://hub.elliptic.co/analysis/fraud-and-scams-involving-bitcoin-atms/ https://hub.elliptic.co/analysis/fraud-and-scams-involving-b... You can expect me to be laughing when another crypto crash happens and you'll be sprinting to the nearest Bitcoin ATM. > Any sources? Also, don't live in the US. India: https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/indias-push-regulate-crypto-gains-imf-us-support-g20-2023-02-25/ https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/indias-push-regulat... UK: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-sets-out-plans-to-regulate-crypto-and-protect-consumers https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-sets-out-plans-to-regu... Singapore: https://blockworks.co/news/crypto-singapore-license-standards https://blockworks.co/news/crypto-singapore-license-standard... > If not crypto, giftcards will work in a pinch (personal, smaller than $5,000) [2]. And for larger amounts, what I already cited works. [1] Except gift cards don't work at scale. Crypto is way easier for criminals and is responsible for the amplification of ransomware which is on the rise. https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/366544598/Chainalysis-observes-sharp-rise-in-ransomware-payments https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/366544598/Cha... There is no upside to crypto at all and no normal person will perform / practice the fools errand that criminals and delusional utopian extreme individuals like yourself would engage in.

ColoursofOSINT 3y ago
>Yes, you guessed it, it can be traced [2]. No really, bitcoin transactions can be seen? That's literally one of the main points of a blockchain. OMG, 8t9f8ibsfousghs sent 1 btc to 8o7tagoraiho8argf! Lmao, this tells you nothing about the wallet owner. That tells you nothing about to whom it's going, and even if you could that why I: > 2. I coinjoin the bitcoin Going to skip over this again? No answer, buddy? > [2] Lmao, your own source, says "flow of funds from a Bitcoin ATM to.... Bitcoin mixing service known as Bitcoin Fog". And that's where the trail ends. Seems that the mixers and coinjoins are working. Read your own source before posting. Even with KYC, it doesn't matter. > India Singapore UK Mixers and coinjoins were made for these situations in mind. Still has no impact on me. > [1] Owners were aware fraud was going on and let it continue. Remind you of anyone [1-6]? I guess you shouldn't touch any sort of bank. They've been known to collapse and commit fraud on a massive scale. [7] You can expect me to be laughing when another bank crash happens and you'll be sprinting to the nearest ATM. > > If not crypto, giftcards will work in a pinch (personal, smaller than $5,000) [2]. > Except gift cards don't work at scale. Source? And they do. [8] $233 million/year in one country. [9] And that's just social engineering, could do far more if there is an actual reason to pay. > There is no upside to crypto at all I can pay for the services I already listed in an above comment, without handing over my information to be breached or sold. Are you a bot? We already had this conversation. You claimed that: >>>>> Nobody accepts Monero, Bitcoin in the real world I listed a few for you. >>>> Kagi, vps providers, domain hosters, non-profits, email providers... To which you said: >>> The internet is not the real world. And then hid from my response about >> Tell that to Google, Microsoft, Apple... etc [4]. Welcome to the age of technology. And once again you are hiding from: >And your response, for the third time: Nothing! Lmao, I can just use the same arguments since you are so scared of them! This is the third time you have skipped over the same point because you are wrong. Not to mention the other ones which I already pointed out. Going to keep running? [1]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-20/swedbank-reportedly-behind-4-3-billion-in-suspicious-transfers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-20/swedbank-... [2]: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-bank-faces-action-over-20bn-russian-money-laundering-scheme https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-ba... [3]:https://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/business/bank-settles-us-inquiry-into-money-laundering.html https://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/business/bank-settles-us-... [4]: https://archive.nytimes.com/dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/bnp-paribas-pleads-guilty-in-sanctions-case/ https://archive.nytimes.com/dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/... [5]: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/bank-america-pay-1665-billion-historic-justice-department-settlement-financial-fraud-leading https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/bank-america-pay-1665-billion... [6]: https://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/2013/investing-news-for-jan-29-hsbcs-money-laundering-scandal-hbc-scbff-ing-cs-rbs0129.aspx https://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/2013/investing-n... [7]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banking_crises https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banking_crises [8]: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/gift-card-scams/ https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/gift-card-sc... [9]: https://www.rd.com/article/gift-card-scams/ https://www.rd.com/article/gift-card-scams/