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As you get more experienced in programming you'll inevitably inherit projects that you didn't have any say over, when that time comes come back to this comment,

As you get more experienced in programming you'll inevitably inherit projects that you didn't have any say over, when that time comes come back to this comment, I'd be interested to hear if you still feel the same way.

satvikpendem 3y ago
I have inherited such projects. But it seems like you're talking about code that is no more complex than hello world, as you've quoted, so it wouldn't be too complex to do in any language or framework. Now if you do inherit a larger project that you don't like, well, you either work on it or you switch jobs.
- laputan_machine 3y ago
  > Now if you do inherit a larger project that you don't like, well, you either work on it or you switch jobs. Which you wouldn't have to contemplate if your predescessor had simply used the right tool for the right job, right? Such as not using an over-engineered framework for a problem that didn't need to use one. :) Cheers!
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    I mean sure, but I wouldn't work at such places anyway. One cannot escape complexity, it's either in your code or in other people's code that you use. Don't overengineer, but not everything you'd think is overengineering is actually the case. Otherwise, just work in assembly. It is also interesting that you haven't responded to the other comments that call out flaws in your argument, just mine, perhaps because you don't have an answer for them either, as your original comment is now dead.
    - laputan_machine 3y ago
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      - satvikpendem 3y ago
        I did not flag your comment, if that's what you're implying. I can't downvote comments I reply to and I'm pretty sure flagging has no effect either on such comments. But yes, it's still interesting that you haven't responded to those other comments, as I've said.
        laputan_machine 3y ago
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        dang 3y ago
        Yikes! You can't post like this to HN and we ban accounts that do. I don't want to ban you because your account has been around for a while—but when I look through your history I see so many comments breaking the site guidelines (and often quite badly) that I don't think we have much of a choice. However, we also haven't warned you before, so I suppose it would be fair to start with that. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, we'd be grateful. That means no more personal attacks, putdowns, name-calling, or flamebait—at a minimum. We want thoughtful, substantive, curious conversation. I did see at least one comment on the good side: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37235139 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37235139, which is a nice proof that you can do this. Please stick to this from now on!

satvikpendem 3y ago

I have inherited such projects. But it seems like you're talking about code that is no more complex than hello world, as you've quoted, so it wouldn't be too complex to do in any language or framework. Now if you do inherit a larger project that you don't like, well, you either work on it or you switch jobs.

laputan_machine 3y ago
> Now if you do inherit a larger project that you don't like, well, you either work on it or you switch jobs. Which you wouldn't have to contemplate if your predescessor had simply used the right tool for the right job, right? Such as not using an over-engineered framework for a problem that didn't need to use one. :) Cheers!
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  I mean sure, but I wouldn't work at such places anyway. One cannot escape complexity, it's either in your code or in other people's code that you use. Don't overengineer, but not everything you'd think is overengineering is actually the case. Otherwise, just work in assembly. It is also interesting that you haven't responded to the other comments that call out flaws in your argument, just mine, perhaps because you don't have an answer for them either, as your original comment is now dead.
  - laputan_machine 3y ago
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    - satvikpendem 3y ago
      I did not flag your comment, if that's what you're implying. I can't downvote comments I reply to and I'm pretty sure flagging has no effect either on such comments. But yes, it's still interesting that you haven't responded to those other comments, as I've said.
      - laputan_machine 3y ago
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        dang 3y ago
        Yikes! You can't post like this to HN and we ban accounts that do. I don't want to ban you because your account has been around for a while—but when I look through your history I see so many comments breaking the site guidelines (and often quite badly) that I don't think we have much of a choice. However, we also haven't warned you before, so I suppose it would be fair to start with that. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, we'd be grateful. That means no more personal attacks, putdowns, name-calling, or flamebait—at a minimum. We want thoughtful, substantive, curious conversation. I did see at least one comment on the good side: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37235139 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37235139, which is a nice proof that you can do this. Please stick to this from now on!