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Probably for far-right reasons; January 6th was called a "1776 Moment" by Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert, and the Proud Boys once sold merchand

Probably for far-right reasons; January 6th was called a "1776 Moment" by Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert, and the Proud Boys once sold merchandise with 1776 on it. So auto-complete on its own probably suggests a bunch of alt-right terms.

pipo234 3y ago
I've probably been living under a rock here in EU. January 6th, riots, proud boys rings a bell, but what is 1776? Is that the capitol address? A year reference? Some alt-right numerology? Can anyone explain, please?
- yawpitch 3y ago
  Year that America happened… kind of a big deal to Americans.
- richardjam73 3y ago
  Passing of the US declaration of independence from England occurred in 1776.
- flyingfences 3y ago
  United States Independence Day https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goddard_broadside.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goddard_...
  - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
    "Gentlemen, we must hang together or we shall all hang separately."
- seadan83 3y ago
  The renewed interest and new mantra of 1776 is a backlash to the 1619 project. This right leaning resource summarizes that point of view: " the New York Times Magazine’s 1619 Project ... attempts to reframe our understanding of American history by alleging the central event in the founding of the United States was the first importation of enslaved Africans to Virginia in 1619 and not the Declaration of Independence in 1776." [1] [1] https://capitalresearch.org/article/architects-of-woke-the-1619-project/ https://capitalresearch.org/article/architects-of-woke-the-1...
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    And specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_Commission
  - mindslight 3y ago
    For every political hack, there is an equal and opposite political hack.
  - knewter 3y ago
    Counterpoint: I love america and loved 1776 references long before the 1619 project was a thing. There was no renewed interest on the part of me or my compatriots.
    - seadan83 3y ago
      I believe your statements to be virtuous - but also fascinating that you felt the need to make the counterpoint. The counterpoint stated allows the situation to be a dog whistle. It's a regrettable situation. (caveat, our personal beliefs don't matter here, they are not the reason why this issue is back into the popular culture. I'm trying to keep my commentary objective regarding the popular culture, these statements do not reflect my views nor a judgement of yours). So... it's a pretty stark contrast to respond to one commission viewing American history through the lens of when slavery started with another commission that emphasizes freedom and independence (and significantly full freedom and independence only for white land-owning males). Now, my brother, I assume nothing about you - please don't take the above to be any type of commentary about you, your opinions or your compatriots. I believe what you say at face value. Though, your counterpoint very concisely underscored why this is in the popular culture. There is a gate-keeping mechanism at play here. If a person can't reasonably think such a (racist) contrast exists, and anyone who does think that contrast is racist is not a patriot and does not also love America - that seems to be gate keeping of who can be a patriot. It's concerning. No doubt there are many long time lovers of history, of America, of 1776, but to those voices now are those who speak the very same words but as a dog whistle. Hence, it's more of a thing than it was, and why it's now more salient in the popular culture than before. I think this back-and-forth highlights the very subtle details behind this issue, and in sum is a very complete answer to the question of why Americans are now generally (as far as the pop culture goes) so concerned about 1776. It's to an extent become a new litmus test for tribal identity, whether you are a patriot or not, part of the in-group or out-group. To those that are neutral on that litmus test, that feel they have other points of view, it is a disservice. So, just all in all a really good example of how Americans are becoming really divided for no good reason...
d-z-m 3y ago
> So auto-complete on its own probably suggests a bunch of alt-right terms. If this were true, YouTube could simply black-hole the more specific keyword, i.e. "1776 Moment" instead of "1776". For example, the search string "where to buy" has many completions, but "where to buy guns" has none.
logicalmonster 3y ago
Putting aside the ethics of censorship for a moment, there's a few oddities to me here. * It seems to be sending mixed messages that content is so "problematic" that it cannot be recommended by YouTube, yet not "problematic" enough to be banned by YouTube. * It seems odd that Google, with all of their algorithm geniuses, can't work out a system to not recommend "problematic" content for generic 1776 keywords. Aren't there hundreds of reputable channels that deal with pure history stuff? Aren't there maybe thousands of history videos on the Revolutionary War that have no connection to present day politics that can be linked to? * Google's algorithm seems incredibly stupid if they're recommending more than an infinitesimal percentage of 1776 keywords to "alt-right" content. Recognizing 1776 as a very important historical year has been done in American schools forever. It's up there with 1492 with random years that kids are taught about remembering. The overwhelming majority of anything ever created with 1776 as a keyword is not about January 6.
- bediger4000 3y ago
  Agreed. This is really unpatriotic of YouTube.
- wyager 3y ago
  This reminds me of when Google Shopping (remember that?) started returning zero results for any search containing the substring "gun", so "hot glue gun" or "gundam figurine" would return nothing.
  - benj111 3y ago
    >gundam So even Google fails to avoid the Scunthorpe problem.
  - logicalmonster 3y ago
    How did Google come up with that kind of solution with their teams of developers that pass those crazy leetcode interviews? Matching strings like this seems like a solution that an average high-school programmer would find some question marks with.
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rchaud 3y ago
That makes sense to me. There is an '80s punk band called Big Black (guitarist produced records by Nirvana and Pixies), and as you can imagine, typing the band's name into google or youtube will immediately turn autocomplete off.
- okdood64 3y ago
  It autocompletes for me on Google.

pipo234 3y ago

I've probably been living under a rock here in EU. January 6th, riots, proud boys rings a bell, but what is 1776? Is that the capitol address? A year reference? Some alt-right numerology? Can anyone explain, please?

yawpitch 3y ago
Year that America happened… kind of a big deal to Americans.
richardjam73 3y ago
Passing of the US declaration of independence from England occurred in 1776.
flyingfences 3y ago
United States Independence Day https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goddard_broadside.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Goddard_...
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
  "Gentlemen, we must hang together or we shall all hang separately."
seadan83 3y ago
The renewed interest and new mantra of 1776 is a backlash to the 1619 project. This right leaning resource summarizes that point of view: " the New York Times Magazine’s 1619 Project ... attempts to reframe our understanding of American history by alleging the central event in the founding of the United States was the first importation of enslaved Africans to Virginia in 1619 and not the Declaration of Independence in 1776." [1] [1] https://capitalresearch.org/article/architects-of-woke-the-1619-project/ https://capitalresearch.org/article/architects-of-woke-the-1...
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  And specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_Commission
- mindslight 3y ago
  For every political hack, there is an equal and opposite political hack.
- knewter 3y ago
  Counterpoint: I love america and loved 1776 references long before the 1619 project was a thing. There was no renewed interest on the part of me or my compatriots.
  - seadan83 3y ago
    I believe your statements to be virtuous - but also fascinating that you felt the need to make the counterpoint. The counterpoint stated allows the situation to be a dog whistle. It's a regrettable situation. (caveat, our personal beliefs don't matter here, they are not the reason why this issue is back into the popular culture. I'm trying to keep my commentary objective regarding the popular culture, these statements do not reflect my views nor a judgement of yours). So... it's a pretty stark contrast to respond to one commission viewing American history through the lens of when slavery started with another commission that emphasizes freedom and independence (and significantly full freedom and independence only for white land-owning males). Now, my brother, I assume nothing about you - please don't take the above to be any type of commentary about you, your opinions or your compatriots. I believe what you say at face value. Though, your counterpoint very concisely underscored why this is in the popular culture. There is a gate-keeping mechanism at play here. If a person can't reasonably think such a (racist) contrast exists, and anyone who does think that contrast is racist is not a patriot and does not also love America - that seems to be gate keeping of who can be a patriot. It's concerning. No doubt there are many long time lovers of history, of America, of 1776, but to those voices now are those who speak the very same words but as a dog whistle. Hence, it's more of a thing than it was, and why it's now more salient in the popular culture than before. I think this back-and-forth highlights the very subtle details behind this issue, and in sum is a very complete answer to the question of why Americans are now generally (as far as the pop culture goes) so concerned about 1776. It's to an extent become a new litmus test for tribal identity, whether you are a patriot or not, part of the in-group or out-group. To those that are neutral on that litmus test, that feel they have other points of view, it is a disservice. So, just all in all a really good example of how Americans are becoming really divided for no good reason...

d-z-m 3y ago

> So auto-complete on its own probably suggests a bunch of alt-right terms. If this were true, YouTube could simply black-hole the more specific keyword, i.e. "1776 Moment" instead of "1776". For example, the search string "where to buy" has many completions, but "where to buy guns" has none.

logicalmonster 3y ago

Putting aside the ethics of censorship for a moment, there's a few oddities to me here. * It seems to be sending mixed messages that content is so "problematic" that it cannot be recommended by YouTube, yet not "problematic" enough to be banned by YouTube. * It seems odd that Google, with all of their algorithm geniuses, can't work out a system to not recommend "problematic" content for generic 1776 keywords. Aren't there hundreds of reputable channels that deal with pure history stuff? Aren't there maybe thousands of history videos on the Revolutionary War that have no connection to present day politics that can be linked to? * Google's algorithm seems incredibly stupid if they're recommending more than an infinitesimal percentage of 1776 keywords to "alt-right" content. Recognizing 1776 as a very important historical year has been done in American schools forever. It's up there with 1492 with random years that kids are taught about remembering. The overwhelming majority of anything ever created with 1776 as a keyword is not about January 6.

bediger4000 3y ago
Agreed. This is really unpatriotic of YouTube.
wyager 3y ago
This reminds me of when Google Shopping (remember that?) started returning zero results for any search containing the substring "gun", so "hot glue gun" or "gundam figurine" would return nothing.
- benj111 3y ago
  >gundam So even Google fails to avoid the Scunthorpe problem.
- logicalmonster 3y ago
  How did Google come up with that kind of solution with their teams of developers that pass those crazy leetcode interviews? Matching strings like this seems like a solution that an average high-school programmer would find some question marks with.
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rchaud 3y ago

That makes sense to me. There is an '80s punk band called Big Black (guitarist produced records by Nirvana and Pixies), and as you can imagine, typing the band's name into google or youtube will immediately turn autocomplete off.

okdood64 3y ago
It autocompletes for me on Google.