here is 2 that were mentioned in HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36153683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36153683 https://news.ycombinator.com/ite

here is 2 that were mentioned in HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36153683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36153683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36798593 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36798593