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This is bs people… don’t fall for this crap. Just keep physical photo albums and digitize everything, there’s a million and one backup solutions that allow you

This is bs people… don’t fall for this crap. Just keep physical photo albums and digitize everything, there’s a million and one backup solutions that allow you to control your physical disk or even cloud based solutions that are as easy as drag and drop. Never trust some random service with your valuable data and memories. —- Side note: if author is worth their salt they would’ve posted this with their main account, not a throwaway with 39 karma, this means -at best- that this is a weekend project and the dude doesn’t want this to fall back to them if it turns out to be crap. You don’t want to upload your real stuff some some crummy copy pasta weekend hack bullshit.

KomoD 3y ago
It's their main account, with their real name, it's not a throwaway. Yes it's misleading but relax, it's a 15 year old.
- VarunPotti 3y ago
  Open to feedback on how to better word my products and product development in general!
- chillbill 3y ago
  I would’ve worded it differently if I had known it’s a 15 yo, sorry about that OP. But the gist is still true, it doesn’t hurt to hear the truth raw every once in a while.
  - VarunPotti 3y ago
    Yep, definitely helps me in the long run. I noticed my flaws in the wording and I am sorry about that. Will be working on my flaws and learn from my mistakes.
quickthrower2 3y ago
Furthermore there is no internet company I would trust to keep my data for 100 years. (Because what internet things don't shut down after like 10 years OR require a recurring payment that might fail). That is a wild claim! The only remotely possible way might be blockchain (but that'll be stupidly expensive) or more simply, a normal public blog that gets indexed by the internet archive.
- VarunPotti 3y ago
  True, could have worded it better. I still think how I can have the data preserved for more than 100 years, I haven't yet found a way. I did find a few methods but I felt that they would put the privacy at risk. One was using blockchain (which as you told is stupidly expensive) and the other one was using distributed databases like https://gun.eco/ https://gun.eco/ with a few nodes hosted around the world (kinda like nostr). Even if the platform manages to stay alive for 50 years is a big W in my book! The older generations know about their histories but they never tell the newer generations because time is limited. This leads to the newer generations not knowing their roots.
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    The problem with 100 years time. Imagine someone like you set up something like this in 1923, and that someone is now dead, and their kids had no interest in keeping it going, infact they had financial problems so sold the site for $50 to someone who let it lapse. You see you need to coordinate people from beyond the grave... a bit like the US Constitution. Hell even countries (in their political form) often don't last 100 years. I am not saying it is impossible, but it is hard, so you need to convince people you are serious. Which might mean, for example working for the internet archive, or a large museum with digital presence for a few years in a senior position, etc. then coming and saying "I am starting this and I know all about keeping stuff around for decades"
VarunPotti 3y ago
Haha, I kinda agree but I also disagree. I completely understand, and this was never a weekend project to begin with. I am trying to get a concept out and I have already got my family to use it (parents). Sure in some cases you can call it a POC. The goal for clann was to streamline and make it easy for you to preserve memories. Sure you can go with cloud providers if you wanted to. Further I am not forcing people to upload images and put proper birthdays in their family trees. What I am letting them know is you can just have the names (which for the most part are public) and connect the members.
- chillbill 3y ago
  Some more raw feedback: Words like “streamline” are meaningless. You sound like you know how web apps work even at your age, so you would know that what you’re saying is near impossible without a ton of reputation, money and history in the business. Saying that you’re not forcing anyone to do upload their valuable images or data while at the same time it’s exactly what your marketing copy suggests strikes me now as a bit scammy (not saying you’re a scammer, just letting you know how it sounds) just like a lot of those crypto scammers who eventually say that they didn’t force anyone to invest. You seem capable and smart, don't fall into the trap that many HN lurkers fall into, which is thinking that they can build a whatever product to get some attention and then hopefully something comes out of it, you don’t have to waste your time on this stuff, or others for that matter.
  - VarunPotti 3y ago
    Thank you so much for the feedback. Honestly most people give me sugar coated feedback and it feels good to know my flaws and fix them. Will definitely work on making my wording better. I agree with you on the "waste your time". Wanted to experiment with it, While I will continue doing the little maintenance required for the existing users, I have shifted my attention to more open source products.

KomoD 3y ago

It's their main account, with their real name, it's not a throwaway. Yes it's misleading but relax, it's a 15 year old.

VarunPotti 3y ago
Open to feedback on how to better word my products and product development in general!
chillbill 3y ago
I would’ve worded it differently if I had known it’s a 15 yo, sorry about that OP. But the gist is still true, it doesn’t hurt to hear the truth raw every once in a while.
- VarunPotti 3y ago
  Yep, definitely helps me in the long run. I noticed my flaws in the wording and I am sorry about that. Will be working on my flaws and learn from my mistakes.

quickthrower2 3y ago

Furthermore there is no internet company I would trust to keep my data for 100 years. (Because what internet things don't shut down after like 10 years OR require a recurring payment that might fail). That is a wild claim! The only remotely possible way might be blockchain (but that'll be stupidly expensive) or more simply, a normal public blog that gets indexed by the internet archive.

VarunPotti 3y ago
True, could have worded it better. I still think how I can have the data preserved for more than 100 years, I haven't yet found a way. I did find a few methods but I felt that they would put the privacy at risk. One was using blockchain (which as you told is stupidly expensive) and the other one was using distributed databases like https://gun.eco/ https://gun.eco/ with a few nodes hosted around the world (kinda like nostr). Even if the platform manages to stay alive for 50 years is a big W in my book! The older generations know about their histories but they never tell the newer generations because time is limited. This leads to the newer generations not knowing their roots.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  The problem with 100 years time. Imagine someone like you set up something like this in 1923, and that someone is now dead, and their kids had no interest in keeping it going, infact they had financial problems so sold the site for $50 to someone who let it lapse. You see you need to coordinate people from beyond the grave... a bit like the US Constitution. Hell even countries (in their political form) often don't last 100 years. I am not saying it is impossible, but it is hard, so you need to convince people you are serious. Which might mean, for example working for the internet archive, or a large museum with digital presence for a few years in a senior position, etc. then coming and saying "I am starting this and I know all about keeping stuff around for decades"

VarunPotti 3y ago

Haha, I kinda agree but I also disagree. I completely understand, and this was never a weekend project to begin with. I am trying to get a concept out and I have already got my family to use it (parents). Sure in some cases you can call it a POC. The goal for clann was to streamline and make it easy for you to preserve memories. Sure you can go with cloud providers if you wanted to. Further I am not forcing people to upload images and put proper birthdays in their family trees. What I am letting them know is you can just have the names (which for the most part are public) and connect the members.

chillbill 3y ago
Some more raw feedback: Words like “streamline” are meaningless. You sound like you know how web apps work even at your age, so you would know that what you’re saying is near impossible without a ton of reputation, money and history in the business. Saying that you’re not forcing anyone to do upload their valuable images or data while at the same time it’s exactly what your marketing copy suggests strikes me now as a bit scammy (not saying you’re a scammer, just letting you know how it sounds) just like a lot of those crypto scammers who eventually say that they didn’t force anyone to invest. You seem capable and smart, don't fall into the trap that many HN lurkers fall into, which is thinking that they can build a whatever product to get some attention and then hopefully something comes out of it, you don’t have to waste your time on this stuff, or others for that matter.
- VarunPotti 3y ago
  Thank you so much for the feedback. Honestly most people give me sugar coated feedback and it feels good to know my flaws and fix them. Will definitely work on making my wording better. I agree with you on the "waste your time". Wanted to experiment with it, While I will continue doing the little maintenance required for the existing users, I have shifted my attention to more open source products.