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Wow, I really like the contrasted view here. It is definitely thought provoking. One day, I may use it in a book or blog post. How shall I cite your thought? Li

Wow, I really like the contrasted view here. It is definitely thought provoking. One day, I may use it in a book or blog post. How shall I cite your thought? Link here?

defrost 3y ago
Bear in mind you'd be linking to (apparently) the first place you became aware of a thought that literally dates back as far as sheperd | flock metaphors in any book of the bible.
- MongoTheMad 3y ago
  Perhaps I was a bit unclear. I was not referencing the general idea of raising sheep, but the negative end result - slaughtering (i.e. malicious). The major Christian view of raising sheep is in the positive. It was unique experience for me to read this in the negative light here.
  - defrost 3y ago
    It's genuinely difficult for me to work out parts of your comment. > The major Christian view of raising sheep is in the positive. > but the negative end result - slaughtering I'm in Australia, in a rural area surrounded by a lot of wheat and sheep farmers, many of them with christian backgrounds, many actual christians. All regard raising sheep as a positive enterprise that brings in revenue through wool and meat - it always ends in slaughter (save when there's a drought | fire | etc. when there is unintended / uncontrolled death). That's farming livestock for you, flocks always veer towards an end by slaughter. Now, outside of any Christian | biblical viewpoint there has always been cynicism about religion, about charismatic self declared prophets leading lambs to the slaughter in holy wars. It's not a parallel unique or original to the GP comment here on HN .. and indeed it's such a straightforward observation that shepards only invest effort in protecting flocks from wolves so that they themselves can harvest the flock instead of the wolves that I often wonder why christians even use such imagery.
MrVandemar 3y ago
No credit required MongoTheMad, knock yourself out.

Wow, I really like the contrasted view here. It is definitely thought provoking. One day, I may use it in a book or blog post. How shall I cite your thought? Link here?

defrost 3y ago

Bear in mind you'd be linking to (apparently) the first place you became aware of a thought that literally dates back as far as sheperd | flock metaphors in any book of the bible.

MongoTheMad 3y ago
Perhaps I was a bit unclear. I was not referencing the general idea of raising sheep, but the negative end result - slaughtering (i.e. malicious). The major Christian view of raising sheep is in the positive. It was unique experience for me to read this in the negative light here.
- defrost 3y ago
  It's genuinely difficult for me to work out parts of your comment. > The major Christian view of raising sheep is in the positive. > but the negative end result - slaughtering I'm in Australia, in a rural area surrounded by a lot of wheat and sheep farmers, many of them with christian backgrounds, many actual christians. All regard raising sheep as a positive enterprise that brings in revenue through wool and meat - it always ends in slaughter (save when there's a drought | fire | etc. when there is unintended / uncontrolled death). That's farming livestock for you, flocks always veer towards an end by slaughter. Now, outside of any Christian | biblical viewpoint there has always been cynicism about religion, about charismatic self declared prophets leading lambs to the slaughter in holy wars. It's not a parallel unique or original to the GP comment here on HN .. and indeed it's such a straightforward observation that shepards only invest effort in protecting flocks from wolves so that they themselves can harvest the flock instead of the wolves that I often wonder why christians even use such imagery.

MrVandemar 3y ago

No credit required MongoTheMad, knock yourself out.