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Why is the US such a prude country? They show people blowing their head off with a gun in the afternoon news while children are watching, but omg, a boob or ev

by gitarr 15y ago

Why is the US such a prude country? They show people blowing their head off with a gun in the afternoon news while children are watching, but omg, a boob or even worse a nipple they go crazy! This ban has to be taken back, or all other means to browse reddit must be banned as well, including all google browsers, etc. I see a lawsuit coming otherwise.

pohl 15y ago
This ban has to be taken back, or all other means to browse reddit must be banned as well, including all google browsers, etc. I don't understand your reasoning here. When a store decides to not devote shelf space to an item, they are in no way trying to prevent you from going to another store that carries it. My local grocer does not carry tomatillos, but they're not going to sue me if I get them elsewhere.
- pyre 15y ago
  > they're not going to sue me if I get them elsewhere. But that's a potential sale lost. You're stealing that potential revenue from your local grocer and deserve to be punished!
- darklajid 15y ago
  The analogy is crap. Let me make it worse: You're the only store around for miles and miles and people really just buy what you've got in stock. Sure, they could order online or grow something in their backyards. Maybe there's this obscure and small outlet for some of the missing things from your inventory, but most customers don't know the place. But you just decided to remove meat from your store now. You consider eating meat distasteful and barbaric and really want to have nothing to do with that sort of stuff. In my book you'd be - abusive in your position as a quasi-monopoly - an asshole by forcing your morale standards on others I think that's a good point the GP makes. I don't give a damn what the weirdo moral limits are in the US. They are totally insane if you have my upbringing. If you want to police the market, add proper age restrictions. Or use this braindead misfeature of regional support and don't allow apps like this in the US (now that would be a change, eh?).
jdminhbg 15y ago
"They show people blowing their head off with a gun in the afternoon news while children are watching" Do you actually think this is a true statement about the US?
- onemoreact 15y ago
  I have seen people killed on the evening news before. Granted I don't recall anyone using a gun to 'blow their own brains out', but if they will show: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Douglas_Wells http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Douglas_Wells the limitation is simply is it news.
  - pbhjpbhj 15y ago
    There are no details given in that link about the broadcast. I find it a bit shocking that it took 44 minutes from the 911 call to the detonation and yet apparently TV crews got there in time to broadcast it (not just record it presumably; so outside broadcast van and patching through to live TV). USA is truly a media marvel.
- noarchy 15y ago
  It has been a long time, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer That incident alone doesn't mean that this is happening often, because it isn't. Violence is shown on US television all the time, but it is almost always of the fictional variety.
  - jarofgreen 15y ago
    > but it is almost always of the fictional variety. And does that distinction make it ok?
    - cobrausn 15y ago
      Why is it that every time this 'violence vs. sex' shtick is brought out, the people who are upset about violence often react to it in the same way the people they are criticizing act about sex (i.e., ban this sick filth!) ? Death is just as natural as sex. Arguably more so - everything dies, and nature seems to have no aversions to violent death. Why would fictional death bother you?
muuh-gnu 15y ago
> They show people blowing their head off with a gun in the afternoon news while children are watching, but omg, a boob or even worse a nipple they go crazy! http://i.imgur.com/SRa6U.png http://i.imgur.com/SRa6U.png
bh42222 15y ago
It's just how the US is. I was watching a very violent move, late at night, on a cable channel. All kinds of violence - no problem. Suddenly an inured woman is being given first aid, in the process one nipple falls out of her shirt briefly - GIANT blur. The root causes for this pro-violence/anti-sex culture could be interesting for sociology researches.
- sp332 15y ago
  That's a little different though. The blood in that movie was fantasy. The nipple was real.
  - bh42222 15y ago
    I don't think you should be down-voted. I find your thinking process fascinating.
    - sp332 15y ago
      People in the US don't go to movies to watch real violence. There's no actual war footage in most war movies, even though it's readily available. Audiences like indulging in a fantasy of violence, but we don't really glorify real violence.
      - bh42222 15y ago
        What do you think of the approach to TV censorship in Europe, where fantasy violence is blurred, but nudity and sex are not?
        sp332 15y ago
        I'm not completely sure. I think the idea is that violence is inherently destructive whereas nudity is not. Probably using sex as entertainment is more socially acceptable than enjoying violence, even fake violence. shrugs

by gitarr 15y ago

pohl 15y ago

This ban has to be taken back, or all other means to browse reddit must be banned as well, including all google browsers, etc. I don't understand your reasoning here. When a store decides to not devote shelf space to an item, they are in no way trying to prevent you from going to another store that carries it. My local grocer does not carry tomatillos, but they're not going to sue me if I get them elsewhere.

pyre 15y ago
> they're not going to sue me if I get them elsewhere. But that's a potential sale lost. You're stealing that potential revenue from your local grocer and deserve to be punished!
darklajid 15y ago
The analogy is crap. Let me make it worse: You're the only store around for miles and miles and people really just buy what you've got in stock. Sure, they could order online or grow something in their backyards. Maybe there's this obscure and small outlet for some of the missing things from your inventory, but most customers don't know the place. But you just decided to remove meat from your store now. You consider eating meat distasteful and barbaric and really want to have nothing to do with that sort of stuff. In my book you'd be - abusive in your position as a quasi-monopoly - an asshole by forcing your morale standards on others I think that's a good point the GP makes. I don't give a damn what the weirdo moral limits are in the US. They are totally insane if you have my upbringing. If you want to police the market, add proper age restrictions. Or use this braindead misfeature of regional support and don't allow apps like this in the US (now that would be a change, eh?).

jdminhbg 15y ago

"They show people blowing their head off with a gun in the afternoon news while children are watching" Do you actually think this is a true statement about the US?

onemoreact 15y ago
I have seen people killed on the evening news before. Granted I don't recall anyone using a gun to 'blow their own brains out', but if they will show: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Douglas_Wells http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Douglas_Wells the limitation is simply is it news.
- pbhjpbhj 15y ago
  There are no details given in that link about the broadcast. I find it a bit shocking that it took 44 minutes from the 911 call to the detonation and yet apparently TV crews got there in time to broadcast it (not just record it presumably; so outside broadcast van and patching through to live TV). USA is truly a media marvel.
noarchy 15y ago
It has been a long time, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer That incident alone doesn't mean that this is happening often, because it isn't. Violence is shown on US television all the time, but it is almost always of the fictional variety.
- jarofgreen 15y ago
  > but it is almost always of the fictional variety. And does that distinction make it ok?
  - cobrausn 15y ago
    Why is it that every time this 'violence vs. sex' shtick is brought out, the people who are upset about violence often react to it in the same way the people they are criticizing act about sex (i.e., ban this sick filth!) ? Death is just as natural as sex. Arguably more so - everything dies, and nature seems to have no aversions to violent death. Why would fictional death bother you?

muuh-gnu 15y ago

> They show people blowing their head off with a gun in the afternoon news while children are watching, but omg, a boob or even worse a nipple they go crazy! http://i.imgur.com/SRa6U.png http://i.imgur.com/SRa6U.png

bh42222 15y ago

It's just how the US is. I was watching a very violent move, late at night, on a cable channel. All kinds of violence - no problem. Suddenly an inured woman is being given first aid, in the process one nipple falls out of her shirt briefly - GIANT blur. The root causes for this pro-violence/anti-sex culture could be interesting for sociology researches.

sp332 15y ago
That's a little different though. The blood in that movie was fantasy. The nipple was real.
- bh42222 15y ago
  I don't think you should be down-voted. I find your thinking process fascinating.
  - sp332 15y ago
    People in the US don't go to movies to watch real violence. There's no actual war footage in most war movies, even though it's readily available. Audiences like indulging in a fantasy of violence, but we don't really glorify real violence.
    - bh42222 15y ago
      What do you think of the approach to TV censorship in Europe, where fantasy violence is blurred, but nudity and sex are not?
      - sp332 15y ago
        I'm not completely sure. I think the idea is that violence is inherently destructive whereas nudity is not. Probably using sex as entertainment is more socially acceptable than enjoying violence, even fake violence. shrugs