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>While it is true that dictatorship, blind eyes and cruelty are the embodiment of these issues, religion is the sword that is wielded. Each year the west makes

by Produce 15y ago

>While it is true that dictatorship, blind eyes and cruelty are the embodiment of these issues, religion is the sword that is wielded. Each year the west makes more progress in what I would consider the eventual realization that religion has no place in our society. We make the mistake of relenting that religion is used for moral guidance – when nations with higher atheism are the ones with the least problems. Tolerance of intolerance is not the moral high ground. Communist Russia, anyone? I think that to stamp out people's exploitation of each other, we must unite, not divide. Religion is as much about culture as it is about power. Suddenly telling people that their culture is no longer accepted and that they should convert or get the fk out is exactly what Christianity did in a lot of places. It's almost funny how being against something usually makes people repeat that very thing themselves.

ajuc 15y ago
One can argue that USSR had state religion of Marxism-Leninism, quite strictly enforced. It was complete with prophets like Stalin, saints and martyrs like that boy that denounced his parents (I forgot his name), or stachan-workers, mythology, holidays, rituals, etc. Not that I think religion is the source of all evil. It's just the source of power, and power correlates with evil.
tomkin 15y ago
The binary argument of Russia is an old one. Tried and true, but completely removed from a full understanding of what makes people violent. Russia and atheism are orthogonal relationships at best. > Suddenly telling people that their culture is no longer accepted and that they should convert or get the fk out is exactly what Christianity did in a lot of places. Allowing people to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions stomps out ones abilities to use that belief as a way to herd people into a specific direction. That's it. No one needs to uproot their culture or how they go about their lives. These ideologies start with an indoctrination that carries people to their own demise without evaluation. That's what needs to stop.

by Produce 15y ago

ajuc 15y ago

One can argue that USSR had state religion of Marxism-Leninism, quite strictly enforced. It was complete with prophets like Stalin, saints and martyrs like that boy that denounced his parents (I forgot his name), or stachan-workers, mythology, holidays, rituals, etc. Not that I think religion is the source of all evil. It's just the source of power, and power correlates with evil.

tomkin 15y ago

The binary argument of Russia is an old one. Tried and true, but completely removed from a full understanding of what makes people violent. Russia and atheism are orthogonal relationships at best. > Suddenly telling people that their culture is no longer accepted and that they should convert or get the fk out is exactly what Christianity did in a lot of places. Allowing people to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions stomps out ones abilities to use that belief as a way to herd people into a specific direction. That's it. No one needs to uproot their culture or how they go about their lives. These ideologies start with an indoctrination that carries people to their own demise without evaluation. That's what needs to stop.