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Tell us the price son

by dbuder 3y ago

homarp 3y ago
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/21/stmicro-stm32mp1-cortex-a7-m4-mpu/#comment-560955 https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/21/stmicro-stm32mp1-cor...
krasin 3y ago
The cheapest one, STM32MP151AAC3 is $6 on LCSC: https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/Microcontroller-Units-MCUs-MPUs-SOCs_STMicroelectronics-STM32MP151AAC3_C1555473.html https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/Microcontroller-Units-MC...
NikkiA 3y ago
They're not hobbyist friendly - 16x16 'tiny' BGA packages, so there's no real benefit over other ARM SBCs, they're massively slower than almost everything else atm. The advantage of STM32 was always that you could prototype on a SBC, but the chips were accessible enough to use in hobbyist projects.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
  > chips were accessible enough to use in hobbyist projects Sure that's nice, but hobbyist use doesn't move the needle for ST Microelectronics even a tiny bit.
- lnsru 3y ago
  They’re not for hobbyist. Wrong shelf. They’re for real products and not SBCs. That’s why you also don’t have NXP parts in the hobby area. For low volume you buy SOMs and for big runs design complete printed circuit boards.
- zokier 3y ago
  .8mm pitch <300pin BGA is still significantly easier to deal with than the typical <.5mm pitch 500-1000+pin monster packages SoCs usually come in.
- spacedcowboy 3y ago
  Or $19 for the easy module, inc flash & emmc… [0] Although since I recently discovered [1] that the R-Pi has an exposed memory interface bus (Secondary Memory Interface, SMI) on its GPIO, I’m far more inclined to use them instead. Getting low-latency/high bandwidth I/O into these “A” (rather than “M”) processors has always been the thing that made using an I.mxRT, STM MP1 or Zynq attractive to me. Turns out the lowly Pi has had that capability all along… Coupling a Pi via SMI with a low-end (read: cheap) FPGA (Ice40K, or Efinix, hell go to town and get an Efinix T20 with 195 io for $8) makes a potent device, IMHO. You can still get an rpi zero W for $15 [2], and even the quad-core zero 2W if you shop around is ~22€ [3], which blows the STM away in terms of CPU, video out, ease of development etc. [0] https://www.myirtech.com/list.asp?id=726 https://www.myirtech.com/list.asp?id=726 [1] https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/state-of-raspberry-pi-adc-support-in-2023/msg5020867/#msg5020867 https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/state-of-raspberry-pi... [2] https://rpilocator.com/?country=US https://rpilocator.com/?country=US [3] https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PIZERO2 https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PIZERO2
Tepix 3y ago
https://www.mouser.de/c/?marcom=139727595&sort=pricing https://www.mouser.de/c/?marcom=139727595&sort=pricing

Tell us the price son

by dbuder 3y ago

Tell us the price son

https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/21/stmicro-stm32mp1-cortex-a7-m4-mpu/#comment-560955 https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/21/stmicro-stm32mp1-cor...

krasin 3y ago

The cheapest one, STM32MP151AAC3 is $6 on LCSC: https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/Microcontroller-Units-MCUs-MPUs-SOCs_STMicroelectronics-STM32MP151AAC3_C1555473.html https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/Microcontroller-Units-MC...

NikkiA 3y ago

They're not hobbyist friendly - 16x16 'tiny' BGA packages, so there's no real benefit over other ARM SBCs, they're massively slower than almost everything else atm. The advantage of STM32 was always that you could prototype on a SBC, but the chips were accessible enough to use in hobbyist projects.

HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
> chips were accessible enough to use in hobbyist projects Sure that's nice, but hobbyist use doesn't move the needle for ST Microelectronics even a tiny bit.
lnsru 3y ago
They’re not for hobbyist. Wrong shelf. They’re for real products and not SBCs. That’s why you also don’t have NXP parts in the hobby area. For low volume you buy SOMs and for big runs design complete printed circuit boards.
zokier 3y ago
.8mm pitch <300pin BGA is still significantly easier to deal with than the typical <.5mm pitch 500-1000+pin monster packages SoCs usually come in.
spacedcowboy 3y ago
Or $19 for the easy module, inc flash & emmc… [0] Although since I recently discovered [1] that the R-Pi has an exposed memory interface bus (Secondary Memory Interface, SMI) on its GPIO, I’m far more inclined to use them instead. Getting low-latency/high bandwidth I/O into these “A” (rather than “M”) processors has always been the thing that made using an I.mxRT, STM MP1 or Zynq attractive to me. Turns out the lowly Pi has had that capability all along… Coupling a Pi via SMI with a low-end (read: cheap) FPGA (Ice40K, or Efinix, hell go to town and get an Efinix T20 with 195 io for $8) makes a potent device, IMHO. You can still get an rpi zero W for $15 [2], and even the quad-core zero 2W if you shop around is ~22€ [3], which blows the STM away in terms of CPU, video out, ease of development etc. [0] https://www.myirtech.com/list.asp?id=726 https://www.myirtech.com/list.asp?id=726 [1] https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/state-of-raspberry-pi-adc-support-in-2023/msg5020867/#msg5020867 https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/state-of-raspberry-pi... [2] https://rpilocator.com/?country=US https://rpilocator.com/?country=US [3] https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PIZERO2 https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PIZERO2

Tepix 3y ago

https://www.mouser.de/c/?marcom=139727595&sort=pricing https://www.mouser.de/c/?marcom=139727595&sort=pricing