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This is a very interesting development. This would imply that any work product generated by an AI would be public domain, right? If BigTech generate code using

This is a very interesting development. This would imply that any work product generated by an AI would be public domain, right? If BigTech generate code using AI for their products, can we demand the source code?

Terr_ 3y ago
No: "Not copyrightable" and "public domain" just means nobody can say " I'm the only one allowed to make copies of that." It doesn't compel you to share information or help people make copies. (Ex: People interested in a family portrait from 1900 hanging in your house, or a Project Gutenberg PDF on your hard drive.) Perhaps closer to software, recipes are not usually copyrightable either, but that doesn't mean a customer can taste my Secret Tasty Sauce and then force me to show them the recipe card. I think the real question here is whether un-copyrightable source-code can be used to create copyrightable binaries... And how that might change when software projects contain a blend of source code.
- webmobdev 3y ago
  If the source code is public domain, can the binaries produced from it be copyrightable?
pylua 3y ago
I feel like that would be fair, and that the laws should be updated with provisions for this for anything containing api generated content.
Gibbon1 3y ago
My take anything generated by AI is essentially a worthless good. Consider that the amount of energy, material resources, human labor it takes to produce are essentially zero. And the supply is unlimited.
- Nevermark 3y ago
  Things usefulness don’t depend on how they were constructed. AI’s are producing lots of useful things. Classifiers, controllers, etc. as well as art which viewers value. There is business value and there is utility value. The latter does not require the former. And even then, not being able to copyright something doesn’t preclude business value. It just changes the landscape for a business using AI generation.
  - Gibbon1 3y ago
    Worthless as in no ones going to pay you anything but a piddling amount of money for it.
    - Nevermark 3y ago
      I agree on that, for simple sales of simple works.
      - Gibbon1 3y ago
        Everything all of it, the price is going to be nil.

Terr_ 3y ago

No: "Not copyrightable" and "public domain" just means nobody can say " I'm the only one allowed to make copies of that." It doesn't compel you to share information or help people make copies. (Ex: People interested in a family portrait from 1900 hanging in your house, or a Project Gutenberg PDF on your hard drive.) Perhaps closer to software, recipes are not usually copyrightable either, but that doesn't mean a customer can taste my Secret Tasty Sauce and then force me to show them the recipe card. I think the real question here is whether un-copyrightable source-code can be used to create copyrightable binaries... And how that might change when software projects contain a blend of source code.

webmobdev 3y ago
If the source code is public domain, can the binaries produced from it be copyrightable?

pylua 3y ago

I feel like that would be fair, and that the laws should be updated with provisions for this for anything containing api generated content.

Gibbon1 3y ago

My take anything generated by AI is essentially a worthless good. Consider that the amount of energy, material resources, human labor it takes to produce are essentially zero. And the supply is unlimited.

Nevermark 3y ago
Things usefulness don’t depend on how they were constructed. AI’s are producing lots of useful things. Classifiers, controllers, etc. as well as art which viewers value. There is business value and there is utility value. The latter does not require the former. And even then, not being able to copyright something doesn’t preclude business value. It just changes the landscape for a business using AI generation.
- Gibbon1 3y ago
  Worthless as in no ones going to pay you anything but a piddling amount of money for it.
  - Nevermark 3y ago
    I agree on that, for simple sales of simple works.
    - Gibbon1 3y ago
      Everything all of it, the price is going to be nil.