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As a Canadian tech worker, fuck this. I get paid 'market rate' which is substantially less than my American peers.
by faluzure 3y ago
As a Canadian tech worker, fuck this. I get paid 'market rate' which is substantially less than my American peers.
- silisili 3y agoSounds like 'market rate' is about to get lowered even more...
- faluzure 3y agoJust like our GDP per capita.
- space_fountain 3y agoAre you saying this change will result in a lower gdp? How do you figure that? Usually it would mean that Canadian companies can get more done for less money right thus boosting overall gdp?
- JacobThreeThree 3y agoAccording to a recent Bank of Montreal analysis, Canada's GDP per capita is likely to decrease. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-real-per-capita-gdp/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-real... >Canada’s population growth will likely slow from its current frantic pace as immigration officials work through the pandemic backlog of applications, but not by all that much. Barring a vast improvement in productivity, Canada’s per-capita GDP – and our standard of living – appear headed for an outright decline.
- space_fountain 3y agoI don't think that reads as saying immigration is leading to reduced gpd let along gdp per capital. Usually we think immigration increases both
- slashdev 3y agoEver considered working remote for a U.S. company? You don’t have to move to take advantage of the better job market in the U.S.
- faluzure 3y agoI do work for an American company but with Canadian branches. I doubled my salary over Canadian tech companies but still only make 50-60% what my American peers make.
- slashdev 3y agoStay away from those ones with Canadian branches, unless you must have the office experience. They always scale pay by location. Corollary, stay away from companies that pay by location when seeking remote work, unless you live in a very expensive location.
- BaseballPhysics 3y agoSame story for me at my last company, which started up in Canada but then relocated headquarters to the US. Why? Access to funding and industry partners. I was making great money compared to my local peers. But compared to my American colleagues I was making half.
- manquer 3y agoCurious are you paid less with comparable cost of living of american peers I.e. are you comparing with NY or Bay Area salaries or median American for same skills? If my CoL is higher living in the Bay Area I would then expect to be compensated for that , and that seems fair . Even when paid higher the quality of life and net savings people living in high CoL areas have are considerably less than in low CoL so am not sure it is better to have the higher compensation
- red-iron-pine 3y agoI've done that more or less since 2015. it's not easy, and I was lucky to have a large group of generally well-connected coworkers and peers from jobs I worked in the US. Generally not possible for the average Canadian unless they've got 80% percentile tech skills, and/or did some time working in the US. Not sure why it isn't more common, even if salaries stay roughly equal (after conversion to CAD), there is tremendous savings to be had just in health insurance costs alone.
- josefresco 3y agoPlease explain more about how your compensation works in CA - I'm genuinely curious as a tech worker interested in relocating from the US.
- cardy31 3y agoCanadians simply make less. At a large, well-known company my partner works for they can trade one US req for two Canadian reqs. TBH I don’t know why some places even bother hiring American devs. Canucks are half-priced and I can’t tell the difference working with a mix of US and Canadian employees.
- mywittyname 3y agoCanada's talent market is smaller, by a lot. I worked for a company with a Canadian arm and we had very few Canucks in development roles, and the few we had were Quebecois, and they were acqui-hired. Anyone getting hired by an American company is looking to immigrate.
- cardy31 3y ago> Anyone getting hired by an American company is looking to immigrate. That simply isn’t true.
- BaseballPhysics 3y ago> Anyone getting hired by an American company is looking to immigrate. Absolutely not true. I just left an American company composed of 1/3rd Canadians and none have demonstrated an interest in relocating. I could go into the many reasons why that might be, but things would get pretty political pretty quickly...
- arroz 3y agoI don’t think most Canadians want to migrate to the US. Some do, but most Canadians don’t see the US with good eyes. Especially because of the price of healthcare and the guns.
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- benhurmarcel 3y agoCompare to basically any other country apart from the US, and you’re not being paid that badly. The US is the outlier, not Canada.