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The college bubble is popping. Enrollment is down 15% from its 2010 peak. My intuition is that the bigger state schools will be well insulated financially, but
by mech7654 3y ago
The college bubble is popping. Enrollment is down 15% from its 2010 peak. My intuition is that the bigger state schools will be well insulated financially, but smaller independent colleges will have a bloodbath.
- m_0x 3y agoUntil companies ditch the stupid degree requirement for jobs that obviously do not require a degree, everybody is going to suffer. Fewer colleges mean: 1) People out of jobs. Teachers will lose their main income and the remaining colleges will have no incentive to increase their payroll because where are they gonna go? 2) Getting into a college will be even more competitive. As companies will still look for people with degrees, colleges can charge even more and candidates to study there will have less choices. This will only change when NOT studying at a college has no impact in your future income. Or the impact is lesser than today.
- SoftTalker 3y agoWhile many jobs do not in reality require more than a high-school level education, a college degree is a valuable filter for people who can commit to something that requires learning and applying what has been learned, and seeing it through over a period of 3-4 years. For jobs that require a college degree, but the major subject of study doesn't matter, that is what they are using it for. A High School diploma used to mean a lot more, when education was compulsory only to 8th grade. A modern high school diploma pretty much just certifies that you showed up, and the only people who don't have one are people who dropped out.
- jostmey 3y agoOr, staying at a previous job for 3-4 years can signal the same level of commitment. Dare I say, staying at a job for the same amount of time as a degree signals more commitment, as staying in college could just indicate 4 years of partying.
- SoftTalker 3y agoYes, that's why after your first job, your college degree means a lot less. Some employers still require it, and some will consider "equivalent experience"
- the_only_law 3y ago> Until companies ditch the stupid degree requirement for jobs that obviously do not require a degree, everybody is going to suffer. It’ll never happen. They need low effort filters.
- fallingknife 3y agoSAT scores would work fine for this
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- aoki 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co. It’s hard to defend generic standardized tests. (Whereas ASVAB is ok.)
- m_0x 3y agoYeah, it won't happen. It's easier to start requiring a master's degree to even be able to submit a CV for a job opening.
- bosie 3y agoWhere would you learn the skills for that first job? And which jobs would that be?
- m_0x 3y agoYour question implies colleges teaches you the skills required for jobs. That's true in specialized career paths. A Doctor, a pharmacist and lawyers are good examples. Don't ditch the degree requirement for those. However I've seen "offices" jobs where they only require people that can read, write, have basic MS Office skills and specially FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. You can learn that in high school. But companies require Degrees for those jobs and it's the most idiotic thing I can think because: a) Companies are downsizing the pool of potential candidates and, b) People with degrees (Some of them at least) will feel that job is not fulfilling. They will leave for better opportunities. For those jobs, just learning on the fly will suffice.