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I'm currently feeling the need to back up youtube videos that are important to me, because I figure it will be much harder soon.

Modified3019 3y ago
They definitely will be, now that google is looking to more proactively enforce ads. But the biggest danger is that videos and channels can get removed by any, all, or no reason. -Copyright middlemen/parasites -Trolls -Shifts in what’s politically or advertiser acceptable (see: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/14ddlng/unalived/ https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/14ddlng/unalived/) -Massive data loss (see myspace) -And especially the capricious whims of the channel owner. A few years ago I realized an old playlist of mine was basically swiss cheese due to how many videos had been removed. If you value it, save it now, because it will be gone sooner than you are prepared for. There are many ways to handle automated saving of channels, including some gui frontends, but offhand the one I use and modify is: https://github.com/TheFrenchGhosty/TheFrenchGhostys-Ultimate-YouTube-DL-Scripts-Collection/ https://github.com/TheFrenchGhosty/TheFrenchGhostys-Ultimate...
- boopmaster 3y ago
  I have music playlists turned to swiss cheese on paid streaming music services, and it's for that reason that I've turned to doing the unthinkable: buying mp3s like some kind of devolved luddite.
  - Pannoniae 3y ago
    Soulseek is your friend.
    - justinclift 3y ago
      Or maybe Bandcamp (bandcamp.com).
      - Modified3019 3y ago
        Bandcamp is what I use. One thing to note, is that the artist/label retain full control of what music is present, and as such can be removed at any time, even ones you paid for. See: https://get.bandcamp.help/hc/en-us/articles/4406122372119-Why-is-my-download-missing-tracks- https://get.bandcamp.help/hc/en-us/articles/4406122372119-Wh... I use https://github.com/easlice/bandcamp-downloader https://github.com/easlice/bandcamp-downloader to immediately archive flac files to my NAS after a purchase, then convert to those to a lossy for space saving format for mobile playback/family sharing as desired with a playlist. This way I have my archive, and the artists I like get their support.
        boopmaster 3y ago
        this is indeed what had happened to one of my top listens in 2022. artist decided to revise their own back catalog narrative so to speak, and I get it but holy crap the horses already left the stable. So it is not for sale. I might find it on soulseek (thanks for the suggestion someone else ITT). the album meant a lot to me, as these things can when they're literally top playcounts for the year - clearly it does. and it was, you know... super-indie, mom's basement kind of soundcloud & distrokid released production. wonderful and now gone. Had I bought this on iTunes it would have gone into my offline library. it was for sale, and is no more. my takeaway has been to get very defensive about any hyper-indie releases that I want to hang onto.
        justinclift 3y ago
        Did you contact the artist to ask if you could grab the older version of their release? They might still have it around and be happy to provide it. :)
        justinclift 3y ago
        Yeah. I use Bandcamp to ensure any $$$ I spend get to the artist as well, and also immediately download their FLAC to my setup as well.
  - ReactiveJelly 3y ago
    I still buy CDs from time to time. Sturdier than vinyls, no copy protection, harder to accidentally delete than a downloaded MP3 or Vorbis. So I have a few precious albums that (until the plastic degrades or my home burns?) I'll always have.
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      > CDs ... Sturdier than vinyls Are they really though? It's my impression that even mass produced pressed CDs have a reputation for rotting on the order of 20-30 years. Vinyl lasts a century or more if you don't physically abuse it. CDs are certainly easier to rip though, so probably still worth it.
      - dotancohen 3y ago
        Compact discs generally do not wear on use, vinyl does.
        mcpackieh 3y ago
        Oxidation causes CDs to rot even if you don't play them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc#Integrity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc#Integrity If you play a vinyl record enough to wear it out, at least you listened to it a lot before it wore out. With CDs, you might never listen to the music even once and come back years later to find it has destroyed itself.
        dotancohen 3y ago
        My original Rust in Peace still plays fine after three and a half decades of use, thank God.
  - Macha 3y ago
    Yeah, this is also why I returned to downloads from streaming
  - account42 3y ago
    I don't get why everyone jumped onto streaming in the first place - it was always clear to me that not "owning" any of the music/movies I like was a bad idea.
    - int_19h 3y ago
      Because it was more convenient, and cheaper if you don't want to buy whole albums.

Modified3019 3y ago

They definitely will be, now that google is looking to more proactively enforce ads. But the biggest danger is that videos and channels can get removed by any, all, or no reason. -Copyright middlemen/parasites -Trolls -Shifts in what’s politically or advertiser acceptable (see: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/14ddlng/unalived/ https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/14ddlng/unalived/) -Massive data loss (see myspace) -And especially the capricious whims of the channel owner. A few years ago I realized an old playlist of mine was basically swiss cheese due to how many videos had been removed. If you value it, save it now, because it will be gone sooner than you are prepared for. There are many ways to handle automated saving of channels, including some gui frontends, but offhand the one I use and modify is: https://github.com/TheFrenchGhosty/TheFrenchGhostys-Ultimate-YouTube-DL-Scripts-Collection/ https://github.com/TheFrenchGhosty/TheFrenchGhostys-Ultimate...

boopmaster 3y ago
I have music playlists turned to swiss cheese on paid streaming music services, and it's for that reason that I've turned to doing the unthinkable: buying mp3s like some kind of devolved luddite.
- Pannoniae 3y ago
  Soulseek is your friend.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    Or maybe Bandcamp (bandcamp.com).
    - Modified3019 3y ago
      Bandcamp is what I use. One thing to note, is that the artist/label retain full control of what music is present, and as such can be removed at any time, even ones you paid for. See: https://get.bandcamp.help/hc/en-us/articles/4406122372119-Why-is-my-download-missing-tracks- https://get.bandcamp.help/hc/en-us/articles/4406122372119-Wh... I use https://github.com/easlice/bandcamp-downloader https://github.com/easlice/bandcamp-downloader to immediately archive flac files to my NAS after a purchase, then convert to those to a lossy for space saving format for mobile playback/family sharing as desired with a playlist. This way I have my archive, and the artists I like get their support.
      - boopmaster 3y ago
        this is indeed what had happened to one of my top listens in 2022. artist decided to revise their own back catalog narrative so to speak, and I get it but holy crap the horses already left the stable. So it is not for sale. I might find it on soulseek (thanks for the suggestion someone else ITT). the album meant a lot to me, as these things can when they're literally top playcounts for the year - clearly it does. and it was, you know... super-indie, mom's basement kind of soundcloud & distrokid released production. wonderful and now gone. Had I bought this on iTunes it would have gone into my offline library. it was for sale, and is no more. my takeaway has been to get very defensive about any hyper-indie releases that I want to hang onto.
        justinclift 3y ago
        Did you contact the artist to ask if you could grab the older version of their release? They might still have it around and be happy to provide it. :)
      - justinclift 3y ago
        Yeah. I use Bandcamp to ensure any $$$ I spend get to the artist as well, and also immediately download their FLAC to my setup as well.
- ReactiveJelly 3y ago
  I still buy CDs from time to time. Sturdier than vinyls, no copy protection, harder to accidentally delete than a downloaded MP3 or Vorbis. So I have a few precious albums that (until the plastic degrades or my home burns?) I'll always have.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    > CDs ... Sturdier than vinyls Are they really though? It's my impression that even mass produced pressed CDs have a reputation for rotting on the order of 20-30 years. Vinyl lasts a century or more if you don't physically abuse it. CDs are certainly easier to rip though, so probably still worth it.
    - dotancohen 3y ago
      Compact discs generally do not wear on use, vinyl does.
      - mcpackieh 3y ago
        Oxidation causes CDs to rot even if you don't play them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc#Integrity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc#Integrity If you play a vinyl record enough to wear it out, at least you listened to it a lot before it wore out. With CDs, you might never listen to the music even once and come back years later to find it has destroyed itself.
        dotancohen 3y ago
        My original Rust in Peace still plays fine after three and a half decades of use, thank God.
- Macha 3y ago
  Yeah, this is also why I returned to downloads from streaming
- account42 3y ago
  I don't get why everyone jumped onto streaming in the first place - it was always clear to me that not "owning" any of the music/movies I like was a bad idea.
  - int_19h 3y ago
    Because it was more convenient, and cheaper if you don't want to buy whole albums.