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> The only category I would say is objectively "better" is Java has the best IDEs out of _any_ language. Kotlin was made by the people behind IntelliJ. I'm not
by randoglando 3y ago
> The only category I would say is objectively "better" is Java has the best IDEs out of _any_ language.
Kotlin was made by the people behind IntelliJ. I'm not sure I understand your point.
- exabrial 3y agosorry, I should have included Kotlin in that part of my comment. IntelliJ Kotlin is quite incredible. Every time I've needed to use it, my expectations have been met. Makes switching to vscode feeling going from an framing nailer to beating in rusty iron nails with a rock.
- iraqmtpizza 3y agoextension functions can be scattered across any number of files and the import statements do not tell you where they are declared. kotlin was specifically designed to drive sales of IntelliJ
- wiseowise 3y agoAnd it’s slow as molasses without feature parity. One feature that comes to mind is rearrange methods. I haven’t used Java in years so someone who actually uses both can find more cases where Kotlin support is worse than Java’s.
- coldtea 3y agoThat's a single IDE from a single vendor though.
- anotherevan 3y agoWe were looking at starting a new Spring Boot project several years ago and considered Kotlin over Java - but the single decent IDE made me reluctant and we went with the familiar Java instead.