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> I don't live in the US, but from abroad I can tell how messed up the police are over there. Translation I get all of my information about American policing t

> I don't live in the US, but from abroad I can tell how messed up the police are over there. Translation I get all of my information about American policing through highly politicized and charged news storied that become stories only because they are exceptional and then feel justified passing judgment on an entire country that has 3 times the people and land as my country.

one_level_deep 3y ago
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locopati 3y ago
Okay. I'm an American citizen living in the States. Our policing systems are incredibly messed up and militarized.
- jimbob45 3y ago
  We have the most ethnically diverse population in the world. Blacks commit more than half of all US crime despite being a tenth of the population. We’re a gigantic state with both the least restrictive gun laws and the most permissive immigration laws in the world. No comparable nation not named China drives nearly as much as we do. To say our policing systems are bad is a smear on the hard-working men and women in those systems. The US simply has challenges that European nations do not have. You can (and maybe should) debate whether or not those challenges should be present in the first place but blaming those challenges on the police is just mean.
  - slater 3y ago
    > We have the most ethnically diverse population in the world Umm, no: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/16/a-revealing-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-ethnically-diverse-countries/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/16...
Two4 3y ago
Translation translation: someone has leveled valid criticism about a nationwide problem in a country that propagandises itself to be the best in the world and I've drank the koolaid so now I need to be super touched about it
- dang 3y ago
  Adding personal attack on top of nationalistic flamewar is not cool, and the sort of thing we ban accounts for. Please make your substantive points thoughtfully. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
ROTMetro 3y ago
Except they also get their information on other countries through highly politicized and charged news stories yet those can't compete with how f'd up America's police stories are. But go ahead say it's the news accounts and not the cops behaviors that are the problem. If only the news wouldn't report on it things would be good.

one_level_deep 3y ago

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locopati 3y ago

Okay. I'm an American citizen living in the States. Our policing systems are incredibly messed up and militarized.

jimbob45 3y ago
We have the most ethnically diverse population in the world. Blacks commit more than half of all US crime despite being a tenth of the population. We’re a gigantic state with both the least restrictive gun laws and the most permissive immigration laws in the world. No comparable nation not named China drives nearly as much as we do. To say our policing systems are bad is a smear on the hard-working men and women in those systems. The US simply has challenges that European nations do not have. You can (and maybe should) debate whether or not those challenges should be present in the first place but blaming those challenges on the police is just mean.
- slater 3y ago
  > We have the most ethnically diverse population in the world Umm, no: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/16/a-revealing-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-ethnically-diverse-countries/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/16...

Two4 3y ago

Translation translation: someone has leveled valid criticism about a nationwide problem in a country that propagandises itself to be the best in the world and I've drank the koolaid so now I need to be super touched about it

dang 3y ago
Adding personal attack on top of nationalistic flamewar is not cool, and the sort of thing we ban accounts for. Please make your substantive points thoughtfully. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ROTMetro 3y ago

Except they also get their information on other countries through highly politicized and charged news stories yet those can't compete with how f'd up America's police stories are. But go ahead say it's the news accounts and not the cops behaviors that are the problem. If only the news wouldn't report on it things would be good.