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It's useful. It's more of a large-scale broadcast situation. Think of large corporate town halls, town council meetings, etc.
by CorpOverreach 3y ago
It's useful.
It's more of a large-scale broadcast situation. Think of large corporate town halls, town council meetings, etc.
- Gasp0de 3y agoYou can just have a conference call with the 5-10 speakers and use broadcasting software to stream it to the audience, why do they need to be in the conference?
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y agoFor the Q&A section that comes at the end, usually.
- hk__2 3y agoYou don’t need to be in the videocall to ask a question; you can do it via chat.
- pclmulqdq 3y agoLive Q&A is a nice feature.
- soco 3y agoIn my experience there will be always some guy ranting for minutes so I learned to really appreciate town halls with a few speakers and taking questions written in the chat.
- dotnet00 3y agoConference for the speakers + unlisted livestream on YouTube could handle that, using chat for Q&A.
- yeputons 3y agoChat lags for 5-120 seconds depending on livestream settings, writing is much slower than speaking, does not always convey the question as well as sound, and is close to impossible to do on the go.
- namibj 3y agoThey allow substantially less than 5. Tho trying is indeed slower for most people.
- ebiester 3y agoSo, then... you're bound by youtube's TOS, you can't prevent people from getting in (usually via login), and Zoom makes it a nice experience instead of a hack. Oh, and you can also do sub-rooms with Zoom, which has some applications in these types of meetings.
- geysersam 3y agoThey don't actually suggest using YouTube. The point is just to illustrate that this is a very common and relatively simple concept. There are tons of tools able to accomplish this.
- dcow 3y agoWhy setup a separate broadcast when listeners can just join the meeting room?
- Gasp0de 3y agoYes, I know it's more comfortable that way, but if you have to decide between giving all your data from all your meetings to a random US company and a slight annoyance whenever you do conferences with more than 500(!) participants, the choice is pretty simple to me. Giving all the data to zoom probably means also giving it to most US law enforcement agencies (should they request it), that would be a big no no for me.
- ebiester 3y agoFor the corporate or training use case, this is not a problem. If you are worried about US law agencies, you shouldn't be using any system that isn't rooted in face to face communication for anything sensitive. (And even that is suspect with as small as bugged devices are today.)
- Gasp0de 3y agoThere is a huge difference between requesting data that has already been collected and requesting Zoom/Microsoft/Google to record future data. The latter probably requires some serious intent. And of course, if I would want to be entirely safe from US law enforcement espionage then I would need to not use computers but whose use case is that?
- AshamedCaptain 3y agoNot to mention that until very recently even MS Teams sent you to a different product when you wanted to stream to 500 people. Even if it's now integrated, it's still a different product inside (and e.g. you could for example open a new window when you were in a 500 people "meeting" at the time when you still could not do so for a regular meeting).
- lukeschlather 3y ago
- hot_gril 3y agoZoom has a mode that basically does this for you, which I assume is how they support >500 users.
- barbazoo 3y agoAt some point though why not just collect questions beforehand, record the whole thing and let people watch it on their own time. At that scale there'll be no interactivity during the meeting anyway.
- ebiester 3y agoYou'd be surprised how much chat happens as a side channel. Further, collecting questions means that the presentation material would have to be out there first, and that misses the point of the town halls, where financials and other initiatives are often first presented to the larger organization.
- barbazoo 3y agoOut town halls usually ask for questions beforehand and that works quite well.
- max51 3y agoBecause that's how you end up with projects that take 3 years to plan instead of 3 months. A live Q&A where all of the experts who can answer questions and everyone interested in the subject who may have questions are in the same room (live or virtual) is a lot more productive compared to what you are suggesting. If something they said in the main presentation was missing important details that you need to do you work, why do you need to wait days/weeks for them to gather all the questions, find all the answers, and publish a video, when they could just answer it live in a few seconds?!
- brightlancer 3y agoHaving 500+ people on a project is how something takes 3 years to plan. "At that scale there'll be no interactivity during the meeting anyway."
- max51 3y agoThere is interactivity. Each company has their own way of doing this, but it's typical that they have someone reading the chat to gather questions and that higher ranked employee can directly speak to ask questions.