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Here's a hot take I heard from a CEO coach last year. She thought burnout was the bodies response of saying that you are literally going to die if you keep work

Here's a hot take I heard from a CEO coach last year. She thought burnout was the bodies response of saying that you are literally going to die if you keep working

jb1991 3y ago
Half right. The other half is that you literally will die if you also stop working.
- Dah00n 3y ago
  How so?
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Life is a pay-to-play game these days.
    - BossingAround 3y ago
      When was a time that life wasn't a pay-to-play game? I'd argue that today, the "pay-to-play" cost is the cheapest it has ever been for the largest number of people on earth.
      - TeMPOraL 3y ago
        All until the last 100 years or so. Back when you could still reasonably survive on sustenance farming in the middle of nowhere. Today, there is no middle of nowhere anymore - wherever you go, there are people there, and an economy, and taxes to pay.
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  - ehnto 3y ago
    Trapped between a rock and a hard place. You can't keep working because you are burnt out, but you can't stop working because there are bills to pay. Obviously not a problem exclusive to people living paycheck to paycheck, but it certainly would be easier to deal with if you could take some time to recover without financially ruining yourself or worse.
    - badpun 3y ago
      I'm taking plenty of multi-month brakes, but they don't feel like recovery. As soon as I'm back to work, after the initial honeymoon that lasts maybe 3-5 weeks, I'm already contemplating quiting the job again.
      - ehnto 3y ago
        3 months wasn't enough for me to be fair, I did half capacity freelancing remotely for about two years and that was what allowed me to re-engage with work in a healthy manner. I learned a lot about my limits, how to work within them and how to spot when I'm draining my bucket so to speak.
      - bionsystem 3y ago
        I've been doing the dame every year for years. I'm not sure how to get out of this cycle. I will try some meditation and some healthier lifestyle and hopefully it'll help but I can't be sure.
        badpun 3y ago
        I've recently arrived at financial independence. It was the only way to break the cycle for me.
GoToRO 3y ago
Also we need to remember that the body response is the correct response in all such situations. We need to trust our bodies more, they encompass all the data from millions of years of evolution.
geswit2x 3y ago
Burnout here years ago. Accompanying depression and anxiety disorders. It's not about what you actually do or don't do, it's more about how you manage your life and what your view of everything is. I haven't really been the hardest working or the most productive. I feel like people who say that, it's like a way to compensate for that failure by projecting an image of super hard working people who have reached exhaustion or great competitive athletes who have reached failure. And I think that no, you can get burnout with a bad management of your life, your way of thinking, and with some really bad habits, and above all "stress that has not been successfully managed" [0]. I have recovered (or so I think) but I can't make as much mental effort as before, I feel that I reach my "limit" earlier, and that if I continue I can end up the same as before. But I can work on long term projects being constant. But I feel that I can't push myself like before. [0] https://www.who.int/news/item/28-05-2019-burn-out-an-occupational-phenomenon-international-classification-of-diseases https://www.who.int/news/item/28-05-2019-burn-out-an-occupat...
- roeles 3y ago
  Perhaps you are simply more aware of the warning signs?
- catsarebetter 3y ago
  Sorry to hear about that, hope you get better.

Here's a hot take I heard from a CEO coach last year. She thought burnout was the bodies response of saying that you are literally going to die if you keep working

jb1991 3y ago

Half right. The other half is that you literally will die if you also stop working.

Dah00n 3y ago
How so?
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Life is a pay-to-play game these days.
  - BossingAround 3y ago
    When was a time that life wasn't a pay-to-play game? I'd argue that today, the "pay-to-play" cost is the cheapest it has ever been for the largest number of people on earth.
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      All until the last 100 years or so. Back when you could still reasonably survive on sustenance farming in the middle of nowhere. Today, there is no middle of nowhere anymore - wherever you go, there are people there, and an economy, and taxes to pay.
      - deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
- ehnto 3y ago
  Trapped between a rock and a hard place. You can't keep working because you are burnt out, but you can't stop working because there are bills to pay. Obviously not a problem exclusive to people living paycheck to paycheck, but it certainly would be easier to deal with if you could take some time to recover without financially ruining yourself or worse.
  - badpun 3y ago
    I'm taking plenty of multi-month brakes, but they don't feel like recovery. As soon as I'm back to work, after the initial honeymoon that lasts maybe 3-5 weeks, I'm already contemplating quiting the job again.
    - ehnto 3y ago
      3 months wasn't enough for me to be fair, I did half capacity freelancing remotely for about two years and that was what allowed me to re-engage with work in a healthy manner. I learned a lot about my limits, how to work within them and how to spot when I'm draining my bucket so to speak.
    - bionsystem 3y ago
      I've been doing the dame every year for years. I'm not sure how to get out of this cycle. I will try some meditation and some healthier lifestyle and hopefully it'll help but I can't be sure.
      - badpun 3y ago
        I've recently arrived at financial independence. It was the only way to break the cycle for me.

GoToRO 3y ago

Also we need to remember that the body response is the correct response in all such situations. We need to trust our bodies more, they encompass all the data from millions of years of evolution.

geswit2x 3y ago

Burnout here years ago. Accompanying depression and anxiety disorders. It's not about what you actually do or don't do, it's more about how you manage your life and what your view of everything is. I haven't really been the hardest working or the most productive. I feel like people who say that, it's like a way to compensate for that failure by projecting an image of super hard working people who have reached exhaustion or great competitive athletes who have reached failure. And I think that no, you can get burnout with a bad management of your life, your way of thinking, and with some really bad habits, and above all "stress that has not been successfully managed" [0]. I have recovered (or so I think) but I can't make as much mental effort as before, I feel that I reach my "limit" earlier, and that if I continue I can end up the same as before. But I can work on long term projects being constant. But I feel that I can't push myself like before. [0] https://www.who.int/news/item/28-05-2019-burn-out-an-occupational-phenomenon-international-classification-of-diseases https://www.who.int/news/item/28-05-2019-burn-out-an-occupat...

roeles 3y ago
Perhaps you are simply more aware of the warning signs?
catsarebetter 3y ago
Sorry to hear about that, hope you get better.