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Is the issue you have with the group of people doing the moderation, or with the idea of the moderation in the first place? Are you certain that its the 'SV eng

Is the issue you have with the group of people doing the moderation, or with the idea of the moderation in the first place? Are you certain that its the 'SV engineers' that are doing the current moderation? If you think the problem is with the current group of moderators, who do you think should be moderating and what should be the criteria of their moderation? If you think we don't need any moderation, do you believe that people should have a fairly easy access to * Learn how to make bombs (as mentioned in the article) * Get away with committing crimes? Are moderating these topics related to morality?

amluto 3y ago
It’s not exactly difficult to find the resources from which the LLMs probably learned these answers in the first place. I can think of many things an LLM could do that would be far more harmful than any of this.
casefields 3y ago
The Progressive laid out how to build a hydrogen bomb: https://progressive.org/magazine/november-1979-issue/ https://progressive.org/magazine/november-1979-issue/ The US government said that info was born secret and sued: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Progressive,_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Progressive,_.... I won’t spoil who won the argument.
int_19h 3y ago
When the "crimes" in question are e.g. drug use or abortion, yes, moderating these topics is very much related to morality.
JoeyBananas 3y ago
In the United States, I can write a pamphlet about getting away with crimes and making bombs and hand it out on the street. There is nothing inherently illegal about those topics.
- fbdab103 3y ago
  Just don't talk about jury nullification[0] [0]https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-06-02/jury-convicts-ex-pastor-who-shared-jury-nullification-fliers https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-06-02/jury-convict...
  - nradov 3y ago
    That conviction was overturned. https://fija.org/news-events/2020/july/keith-wood-conviction-overturned-by-michigan-supreme-court.html https://fija.org/news-events/2020/july/keith-wood-conviction...
    - fbdab103 3y ago
      Huh, well good to know. Though not before his life was upturned and he did spend two weekends in jail.

amluto 3y ago

It’s not exactly difficult to find the resources from which the LLMs probably learned these answers in the first place. I can think of many things an LLM could do that would be far more harmful than any of this.

casefields 3y ago

The Progressive laid out how to build a hydrogen bomb: https://progressive.org/magazine/november-1979-issue/ https://progressive.org/magazine/november-1979-issue/ The US government said that info was born secret and sued: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Progressive,_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Progressive,_.... I won’t spoil who won the argument.

int_19h 3y ago

When the "crimes" in question are e.g. drug use or abortion, yes, moderating these topics is very much related to morality.

JoeyBananas 3y ago

In the United States, I can write a pamphlet about getting away with crimes and making bombs and hand it out on the street. There is nothing inherently illegal about those topics.

fbdab103 3y ago
Just don't talk about jury nullification[0] [0]https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-06-02/jury-convicts-ex-pastor-who-shared-jury-nullification-fliers https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-06-02/jury-convict...
- nradov 3y ago
  That conviction was overturned. https://fija.org/news-events/2020/july/keith-wood-conviction-overturned-by-michigan-supreme-court.html https://fija.org/news-events/2020/july/keith-wood-conviction...
  - fbdab103 3y ago
    Huh, well good to know. Though not before his life was upturned and he did spend two weekends in jail.