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What about 1 or 0 day work week employees? Probably the happiest.

by syspec 3y ago

throwbadubadu 3y ago
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- nickff 3y ago
  The parent is obviously engaging in reductio ad absurdum, which is not a logical fallacy. Where did you get the impression that they were creating a strawman, or engaging in whataboutism?
  - jraph 3y ago
    It does not look like reductio ad absurdum. Reductio ad absurdum would be more like "Assume X. [...]. Then false. Therefore, X can't be true." It looks like an instance of the slippery slope fallacy - kind of. ("4 days? What next? 0?" - more like "of course people are happier working less, so what?" though)
    - nickff 3y ago
      The root comment never implied that a zero or one day work-week was the inevitable consequence of the four-day work-week, so I don't think it was a slippery slope argument. Their argument seemed more like a reductio ad absurdum, because they took the basic subject of the article to an extreme, and asked why not.
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jraph 3y ago
Yes? Would you not want this for you? I would, this would allow me to work on whatever is meaningful for me, what I believe is worth doing, and engage in other enjoying activity. I'm working towards having the most meaningful "paid" work possible, but as long as I have to cater to customer or company needs, it has small chances to be fully aligned with what I want to do. I also believe a lot of useless crap gets produced, we don't need to work as much as we are doing and we would be better off on many aspects reducing this amount of useless work we impose ourselves as a species. So of course 0 days of work per week for everyone is not conceivable, but reducing the hours is largely imaginable. We are not talking about a 1 or 0 day work week here though. Various studies and experiments show that productivity is not quite reduced from 5 to 4 day week workdays, while making people happier. Assuming it's true, it's worth it and we have little reason not to do it.
- ttoinou 3y ago
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hcarvalhoalves 3y ago
Definitely. It’s called early retirement.

What about 1 or 0 day work week employees? Probably the happiest.

by syspec 3y ago

What about 1 or 0 day work week employees? Probably the happiest.

throwbadubadu 3y ago

(Fail)

nickff 3y ago
The parent is obviously engaging in reductio ad absurdum, which is not a logical fallacy. Where did you get the impression that they were creating a strawman, or engaging in whataboutism?
- jraph 3y ago
  It does not look like reductio ad absurdum. Reductio ad absurdum would be more like "Assume X. [...]. Then false. Therefore, X can't be true." It looks like an instance of the slippery slope fallacy - kind of. ("4 days? What next? 0?" - more like "of course people are happier working less, so what?" though)
  - nickff 3y ago
    The root comment never implied that a zero or one day work-week was the inevitable consequence of the four-day work-week, so I don't think it was a slippery slope argument. Their argument seemed more like a reductio ad absurdum, because they took the basic subject of the article to an extreme, and asked why not.

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jraph 3y ago

Yes? Would you not want this for you? I would, this would allow me to work on whatever is meaningful for me, what I believe is worth doing, and engage in other enjoying activity. I'm working towards having the most meaningful "paid" work possible, but as long as I have to cater to customer or company needs, it has small chances to be fully aligned with what I want to do. I also believe a lot of useless crap gets produced, we don't need to work as much as we are doing and we would be better off on many aspects reducing this amount of useless work we impose ourselves as a species. So of course 0 days of work per week for everyone is not conceivable, but reducing the hours is largely imaginable. We are not talking about a 1 or 0 day work week here though. Various studies and experiments show that productivity is not quite reduced from 5 to 4 day week workdays, while making people happier. Assuming it's true, it's worth it and we have little reason not to do it.

ttoinou 3y ago
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hcarvalhoalves 3y ago

Definitely. It’s called early retirement.