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Teslas absolute don't have long-lasting materials or great reliability or great performance. There have been hundreds of thousands of articles and experience ab

by dmode 3y ago

Teslas absolute don't have long-lasting materials or great reliability or great performance. There have been hundreds of thousands of articles and experience about poor materials, build quality, reliability etc. I have owned both a Model S and Model 3, and I did own them because I wanted to support an EV maker, but they are by far some of the worst made cars I have owned. I switched back to a BMW EV and its like night and day.

cs702 3y ago
Not my experience. Let me add that at first, I thought the materials and build of my first Tesla felt "cheap" and "plasticky." Over time, however, I've been pleasantly surprised at how well they've held up. My oldest Tesla is now three years old, and it still looks and feels new. I could never say that about the BMWs, MBs, and Porsches I've owned over the years.
- addisonl 3y ago
  Tesla is one of the least reliable brands you can buy: https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehicle-dependability-studyvds https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehi... Only Ford/Lincoln, Audi, and Land Rover are worse—all notoriously unreliable brands.
  - cs702 3y ago
    Consumer Reports and others have found that most of the "issues" reported with EVs in these rankings are software glitches, often solvable with a reboot or an over-the-air software update: https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/are-electric-cars-more-reliable https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/are-electric-cars-... Those findings are consistent with my experience.
    - addisonl 3y ago
      “The organization also found that Tesla, which is often lauded for its sophisticated technology, was not a paragon of reliability, ranking dead-last among brands”
      - simondotau 3y ago
        That's just a re-stating of the same ridiculous source data that declares any issue, no matter how trivial, to be of equal weight. It's also effectively punishing the carmakers who acknowledge and fix problems.
      - cs702 3y ago
        New survey by Bloomberg (published today!) finds Tesla's five-year reliability to be exceptional: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-tesla-survey/model-3-satisfaction/ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-tesla-survey/model-3... (https://archive.li/rkT9X https://archive.li/rkT9X) Consistent with my experience.

by dmode 3y ago

cs702 3y ago

Not my experience. Let me add that at first, I thought the materials and build of my first Tesla felt "cheap" and "plasticky." Over time, however, I've been pleasantly surprised at how well they've held up. My oldest Tesla is now three years old, and it still looks and feels new. I could never say that about the BMWs, MBs, and Porsches I've owned over the years.

addisonl 3y ago
Tesla is one of the least reliable brands you can buy: https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehicle-dependability-studyvds https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehi... Only Ford/Lincoln, Audi, and Land Rover are worse—all notoriously unreliable brands.
- cs702 3y ago
  Consumer Reports and others have found that most of the "issues" reported with EVs in these rankings are software glitches, often solvable with a reboot or an over-the-air software update: https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/are-electric-cars-more-reliable https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/are-electric-cars-... Those findings are consistent with my experience.
  - addisonl 3y ago
    “The organization also found that Tesla, which is often lauded for its sophisticated technology, was not a paragon of reliability, ranking dead-last among brands”
    - simondotau 3y ago
      That's just a re-stating of the same ridiculous source data that declares any issue, no matter how trivial, to be of equal weight. It's also effectively punishing the carmakers who acknowledge and fix problems.
    - cs702 3y ago
      New survey by Bloomberg (published today!) finds Tesla's five-year reliability to be exceptional: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-tesla-survey/model-3-satisfaction/ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-tesla-survey/model-3... (https://archive.li/rkT9X https://archive.li/rkT9X) Consistent with my experience.