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Pretty stupid stab, to be honest. Every major desktop/workstation operating system uses microkernel or hybrid architecture (even NT, yeah, that's true; I know t

by radious 15y ago

Pretty stupid stab, to be honest. Every major desktop/workstation operating system uses microkernel or hybrid architecture (even NT, yeah, that's true; I know that Linux thinks hybrid is another word for macro-). And it is like this for some purpose. To my best knowledge being macrokernel makes Linux "huge and bloated" like someone has once said.

andreime 15y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel search Windows or NT. OS X, Linux and NT don't use microkernels.
- radious 15y ago
  NT and OS X use hybrid kernels (as well as Plan9). Linus believe that hybrid is another term for monolithic, but rest of the world does not. AFAIR micro- ones are used by QNX and Minix. Monolithic kernels are used by Linux, *BSD (with an exception for Dragonfly, which uses hybrid kernel), Solaris, AIX(?) and more SysV descendants.
  - gillianseed 15y ago
    < NT and OS X use hybrid kernels (as well as Plan9). Linus believe that hybrid is another term for monolithic, but rest of the world does not. Count me out of 'the rest of the world' then. Perhaps you can point me to the what part of NT which would make it a hybrid kernel as opposed to Linux. I've never seen any explanation of this.
- pkmays 15y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_kernel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_kernel No, Windows and OS X use hybrid kernels.
tytso 15y ago
NT puts third-party written graphics drivers into Ring 0. That's definitely not a microkernel. As for whether or not hybrid is another word for Macro, whatever. If that's a face-saving way for microkernel advocates to avoid admitting that their original idea was insane, I'm fine with that. Linus's quote was "drug induced microkernel", however. It wasn't "drug induced microkernel or hybrid architecture" --- although if you run Windows or are forced by a family member to be a Windows support desk, you have my pity....
- unicron 15y ago
  > forced by a family member to be a Windows support desk, you have my pity.... Thank you - it's nice to know there are people out there thinking about us :(

by radious 15y ago

andreime 15y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel search Windows or NT. OS X, Linux and NT don't use microkernels.

radious 15y ago
NT and OS X use hybrid kernels (as well as Plan9). Linus believe that hybrid is another term for monolithic, but rest of the world does not. AFAIR micro- ones are used by QNX and Minix. Monolithic kernels are used by Linux, *BSD (with an exception for Dragonfly, which uses hybrid kernel), Solaris, AIX(?) and more SysV descendants.
- gillianseed 15y ago
  < NT and OS X use hybrid kernels (as well as Plan9). Linus believe that hybrid is another term for monolithic, but rest of the world does not. Count me out of 'the rest of the world' then. Perhaps you can point me to the what part of NT which would make it a hybrid kernel as opposed to Linux. I've never seen any explanation of this.
pkmays 15y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_kernel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_kernel No, Windows and OS X use hybrid kernels.

tytso 15y ago

NT puts third-party written graphics drivers into Ring 0. That's definitely not a microkernel. As for whether or not hybrid is another word for Macro, whatever. If that's a face-saving way for microkernel advocates to avoid admitting that their original idea was insane, I'm fine with that. Linus's quote was "drug induced microkernel", however. It wasn't "drug induced microkernel or hybrid architecture" --- although if you run Windows or are forced by a family member to be a Windows support desk, you have my pity....

unicron 15y ago
> forced by a family member to be a Windows support desk, you have my pity.... Thank you - it's nice to know there are people out there thinking about us :(