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I object to the 1.3 million people that are killed by human drivers every year. They should be banned and autonomous vehicles only allowed on the road, without

I object to the 1.3 million people that are killed by human drivers every year. They should be banned and autonomous vehicles only allowed on the road, without steering wheels.

ecshafer 3y ago
Why not ban individually owned and operated cars, and create a focus pedestrian infrastructure and trains then? This technology already exists, it’s healthier, and cheaper!
- maximus-decimus 3y ago
  The technology exists to have only trains get close enough to everywhere that you can only use train and feet? Honest question, can you get by with only trains even in Japan?
  - Rob_Polding 3y ago
    I get by in an EU capital city just fine using only trains.
    - lockhouse 3y ago
      [flagged]
    - maximus-decimus 3y ago
      An EU capital city, sure, but having ONLY trains implies being able to go to any city and any suburb and any neighborhood by train.
  - ItsMonkk 3y ago
    I think the hybrid approach here might work well. Allow self-driving cars, but limit their speed to one in which they are very clearly safe, maybe something like 10 to 20 mph currently. This would cause most people most of the time to use mass transit, and if the last mile(or first, getting to the train station) of their trip required it they could opt for it.
- Rob_Polding 3y ago
  That would be the dream. I have too many friends though that refuse to get on a bus, and see a car as their right. I would 100% back banning private ownership.
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    How does that work for people living in small cities and rural areas without robust public transportation?
  - pdonis 3y ago
    > I would 100% back banning private ownership. Even for people who have a perfect, unblemished safety record at driving? Which, btw, is the majority of drivers on the road? Basically, you're saying you're fine with punishing the responsible people who take driving seriously and do it safely, because of the mistakes of a few irresponsible people who don't. That's backasswards. You should be focusing on the irresponsible people and leave the responsible ones alone.

I object to the 1.3 million people that are killed by human drivers every year. They should be banned and autonomous vehicles only allowed on the road, without steering wheels.

ecshafer 3y ago

Why not ban individually owned and operated cars, and create a focus pedestrian infrastructure and trains then? This technology already exists, it’s healthier, and cheaper!

maximus-decimus 3y ago
The technology exists to have only trains get close enough to everywhere that you can only use train and feet? Honest question, can you get by with only trains even in Japan?
- Rob_Polding 3y ago
  I get by in an EU capital city just fine using only trains.
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - maximus-decimus 3y ago
    An EU capital city, sure, but having ONLY trains implies being able to go to any city and any suburb and any neighborhood by train.
- ItsMonkk 3y ago
  I think the hybrid approach here might work well. Allow self-driving cars, but limit their speed to one in which they are very clearly safe, maybe something like 10 to 20 mph currently. This would cause most people most of the time to use mass transit, and if the last mile(or first, getting to the train station) of their trip required it they could opt for it.
Rob_Polding 3y ago
That would be the dream. I have too many friends though that refuse to get on a bus, and see a car as their right. I would 100% back banning private ownership.
- lockhouse 3y ago
  How does that work for people living in small cities and rural areas without robust public transportation?
- pdonis 3y ago
  > I would 100% back banning private ownership. Even for people who have a perfect, unblemished safety record at driving? Which, btw, is the majority of drivers on the road? Basically, you're saying you're fine with punishing the responsible people who take driving seriously and do it safely, because of the mistakes of a few irresponsible people who don't. That's backasswards. You should be focusing on the irresponsible people and leave the responsible ones alone.