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> And given the alternative is sugar No, the alternative is to learn to enjoy bitter beverages. We don't need sweeteners.

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serf 3y ago
>the alternative is to learn to enjoy bitter beverages. people seek replacements when things they like become scarce, not alternatives. asking the public-at-large to wholly change preference (especially when the preference is compounded by biological bias in the way we experience taste..) will never be effective without extenuating circumstance or market control of some sort. I sympathize with your point -- people should try to enjoy things without a lot of excess sweetness -- but it doesn't align with reality.
- xorbax 3y ago
  People should think what I want them to think! After the FDA tells me how to tell them what I want them to think
xen0 3y ago
Like alcohol?
- mrleinad 3y ago
  I don't understand your point, but alcohol is not safe either.
  - xen0 3y ago
    A sarcastic 'careful what you wish for'. But to say the solution for people liking something evolution has made us like is to like things evolution made us avoid is... weird? For some people, some bitter tastes are intense; no amount of 'learning' will ever get me to like coffee for example.
- slowmovintarget 3y ago
  Like tea.
zer8k 3y ago
You do realize you can sweeten more than beverages right? What if a diabetic wants a cookie? Or ice cream? This is why hazard ratios are important.
- Clamchop 3y ago
  Aspartame and most sweeteners fall apart at high temperatures, limiting their usefulness for a lot of foodstuffs, like cookies. Which is a shame in my opinion.
- mrleinad 3y ago
  > What if a diabetic wants a cookie? Or ice cream? Diabetics can eat cookies and ice cream, they just need to shoot themselves with insulin afterwards. It's having too much of it the problem. Besides, if something is bad for you, you avoid it. Period. There are infinite other flavors in life to make it all about that single one. "But I want it" is not a reasonable argument.

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serf 3y ago

>the alternative is to learn to enjoy bitter beverages. people seek replacements when things they like become scarce, not alternatives. asking the public-at-large to wholly change preference (especially when the preference is compounded by biological bias in the way we experience taste..) will never be effective without extenuating circumstance or market control of some sort. I sympathize with your point -- people should try to enjoy things without a lot of excess sweetness -- but it doesn't align with reality.

xorbax 3y ago
People should think what I want them to think! After the FDA tells me how to tell them what I want them to think

xen0 3y ago

Like alcohol?

mrleinad 3y ago
I don't understand your point, but alcohol is not safe either.
- xen0 3y ago
  A sarcastic 'careful what you wish for'. But to say the solution for people liking something evolution has made us like is to like things evolution made us avoid is... weird? For some people, some bitter tastes are intense; no amount of 'learning' will ever get me to like coffee for example.
slowmovintarget 3y ago
Like tea.

zer8k 3y ago

You do realize you can sweeten more than beverages right? What if a diabetic wants a cookie? Or ice cream? This is why hazard ratios are important.

Clamchop 3y ago
Aspartame and most sweeteners fall apart at high temperatures, limiting their usefulness for a lot of foodstuffs, like cookies. Which is a shame in my opinion.
mrleinad 3y ago
> What if a diabetic wants a cookie? Or ice cream? Diabetics can eat cookies and ice cream, they just need to shoot themselves with insulin afterwards. It's having too much of it the problem. Besides, if something is bad for you, you avoid it. Period. There are infinite other flavors in life to make it all about that single one. "But I want it" is not a reasonable argument.