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Let me know when I can use those to develop an iOS app from Windows or Linux

• riscy 3y ago
  If you write it in Swift or Objective-C, you're using LLVM and clang.
  • afavour 3y ago
    But you’re still not building it on Windows or Linux.
    • dymk 3y ago
      [flagged]
• cjensen 3y ago
  iOS is a supported target in Visual Studio Professional on Windows.
  • moron4hire 3y ago
    It requires you have a macOS machine somewhere on your network to use Xcode to do the actual build.
    • TillE 3y ago
      Mostly true, but you can do a lot of direct development work now with .NET hot restart: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/maui/ios/hot-restart https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/maui/ios/hot-restar...
      • moron4hire 3y ago
        This sounds mostly useless.
      • deleted 3y ago
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• seba_dos1 3y ago
  AFAIK building iOS apps on Linux is possible if you try really hard, but deploying isn't.
  • hparadiz 3y ago
    You can setup a CI build process on some CI provider that have MacOS servers as hosts.
    • nine_k 3y ago
      That is, you still have to pay for Apple hardware, but by renting it, not owning.
• audunw 3y ago
  I believe Zig is capable of this in a primitive way, and they got there by piggy-backing on LLVM development that Apple has contributed to. There's absolutely nothing Apple is doing to prevent you from developing on iOS from Windows or Linux. Much of the open source development they're doing is making it easier in theory. But in practice, there's just not enough people willing and interesting in putting in the work to set it up. Most iOS developers would just rather use the official tools. And why should Apple put in lots of extra work just to let people develop from other platforms? That's just never going to happen.
  • floomk 3y ago
    where can i find a distribution of xcodebuild for linux or windows?
  • andsoitis 3y ago
    some people ascribe hostility when instead they should infer indifference. if you have an activist mind, you over index on confirmation bias.
    • apatheticonion 3y ago
      I don't know, considering that the only reason you can't compile an application targetting MacOS from your Linux CI/CD is a license that disallows the use of certain MacOS libraries from being used outside of MacOS - combined with Apple's history of aggressively ring-fencing their users, it's understandable that engineers would feel that it's deliberate. If you copy those libraries illegally to Linux, you can build for MacOS from Linux - so either Apple feels indifferent towards engineers building for MacOS or they want everyone to buy a Mac and compile release software locally. What worse is Apple doesn't provide any server-specific hardware/software for automation - so it really does feel like Apple expects people to build release software on MacBook Pros or something.
      • Someone 3y ago
        > a license that disallows the use of certain MacOS libraries from being used outside of MacOS It doesn’t make a big difference in practice, but is there such a clause in their license? I thought the limitation was on Apple hardware. If so, you can build on Linux running on a Mac mini, for example.
• saagarjha 3y ago
  You can do this with a fair amount of effort. I believe licensing prevents you from shipping those apps directly, though.