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So is it basically true that there is no objective information out there anymore, because anyone running a successful site gets corrupted with money?

by AlanSE 3y ago

dylan604 3y ago
That's a big broad brush you just swiped with, but yeah, I kind of agree with it.
rightbyte 3y ago
Blind seems somewhat OK?
iambateman 3y ago
I’d say Consumer Reports and NYT wire cutter are pretty objective… Their bigger issue is that company quality doesn’t change much from year to year, so the pans that were good in 2019 are probably still good now, which is boring.
- loloquwowndueo 3y ago
  Wire cutter is hardly objective - check out their bike lock reviews. Every single recommended product is from Kryptonite.
  - im_down_w_otp 3y ago
    To be fair, most of the alternatives are garbage, but also most of Kryptonite’s own products are garbage. There are ~3 worthwhile bike locks on the market. 2 of them are made by Kryptonite. The rest provide the same value as the TSA. Mostly theatrical.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
    On youtube there are videos from an expert lockpicker, I can't remember the name, where he goes on lockpicking kryptonite locks. He explains in great detail what he expected more from the high end, but his recommendation by the end was still a kryptonite lock, not necessary the ultimate, and said that unless you are ready to lose the bike, unless it's in sight, there is very little you can do. And with an angle grinder you are doomed either way
    - loloquwowndueo 3y ago
      That would be the Lockpicking Lawyer.
      - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
        That's the one indeed!
- outworlder 3y ago
  Wirecutter is not objective. https://www.xdesk.com/wirecutter-standing-desk-review-pay-to-play-model https://www.xdesk.com/wirecutter-standing-desk-review-pay-to...
  - vore 3y ago
    Previous discussion on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22141719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22141719
JohnFen 3y ago
It depends on where they get their money, and how devoted to being ethical the place is. Consumer Reports is a good example of how to do this right. I think it has to be a nonprofit or individual who isn't doing it to make any money, though. If it's a money-maker, you can't trust it.
praptak 3y ago
The only good source is a network of people you know in person. If you don't have one, working on open source projects is a good way to bootstrap one.

So is it basically true that there is no objective information out there anymore, because anyone running a successful site gets corrupted with money?

by AlanSE 3y ago

So is it basically true that there is no objective information out there anymore, because anyone running a successful site gets corrupted with money?

dylan604 3y ago

That's a big broad brush you just swiped with, but yeah, I kind of agree with it.

rightbyte 3y ago

Blind seems somewhat OK?

iambateman 3y ago

I’d say Consumer Reports and NYT wire cutter are pretty objective… Their bigger issue is that company quality doesn’t change much from year to year, so the pans that were good in 2019 are probably still good now, which is boring.

loloquwowndueo 3y ago
Wire cutter is hardly objective - check out their bike lock reviews. Every single recommended product is from Kryptonite.
- im_down_w_otp 3y ago
  To be fair, most of the alternatives are garbage, but also most of Kryptonite’s own products are garbage. There are ~3 worthwhile bike locks on the market. 2 of them are made by Kryptonite. The rest provide the same value as the TSA. Mostly theatrical.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
  On youtube there are videos from an expert lockpicker, I can't remember the name, where he goes on lockpicking kryptonite locks. He explains in great detail what he expected more from the high end, but his recommendation by the end was still a kryptonite lock, not necessary the ultimate, and said that unless you are ready to lose the bike, unless it's in sight, there is very little you can do. And with an angle grinder you are doomed either way
  - loloquwowndueo 3y ago
    That would be the Lockpicking Lawyer.
    - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
      That's the one indeed!
outworlder 3y ago
Wirecutter is not objective. https://www.xdesk.com/wirecutter-standing-desk-review-pay-to-play-model https://www.xdesk.com/wirecutter-standing-desk-review-pay-to...
- vore 3y ago
  Previous discussion on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22141719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22141719

JohnFen 3y ago

It depends on where they get their money, and how devoted to being ethical the place is. Consumer Reports is a good example of how to do this right. I think it has to be a nonprofit or individual who isn't doing it to make any money, though. If it's a money-maker, you can't trust it.

praptak 3y ago

The only good source is a network of people you know in person. If you don't have one, working on open source projects is a good way to bootstrap one.