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Hello friends! I’m really happy to have Shopify putting their faith in our little project like this :) If you’d like a quick intro to the Ladybird project, I p

by akling 3y ago

Hello friends! I’m really happy to have Shopify putting their faith in our little project like this :) If you’d like a quick intro to the Ladybird project, I presented it at a conference earlier this month: https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs Huge thanks to Mike, Tobi and the other folks at Shopify who hooked this up. <3

slekker 3y ago
Congratulations Andreas! One question that might have already popped up: with more and more attention going to Ladybird (in contrast to SerenityOS), how will these sponsorships direct what you do in both projects?
- akling 3y ago
  Thank you! Indeed, all of these large sponsorships so far have been specifically for Ladybird development. That’s also what I’ve been personally focusing on for many months already, so nothing really changes about my day-to-day. The main new thing this enables is hiring more full-time engineers to work on the browser. (Still have details to figure out here though!) That said, keep in mind that 99% of work on Ladybird also improves SerenityOS, since they are part of the same mega-project. :)
  - prox 3y ago
    We just talked about browser choices yesterday. I really hope we get back a “people’s” browser and not boxed in experiences from Big Tech that the market currently has. I hope this project remains dedicated to such a vision!
jamesbfb 3y ago
Congrats mate! I’ve been following your work on SerenityOS since the 3rd or 4th video, and it’s been amazing to see the progression from then to now! You’ve definitely inspired me out of a few burnout humps over the years.
pkphilip 3y ago
Congratulations, Andreas! Keep up the good work on Serenity and Ladybird! I hope to move to using Serenity OS once it matures somewhat :)
bvm 3y ago
did this come about because shopify was the first page you visited in your May update video? nice bit of serendipity!
- akling 3y ago
  I first spoke with Tobi about this in mid-May, so it's been in the works for a while longer. :)
defrost 3y ago
Fantastic work on the OS and browser, congratulations on the sponsership. I look forward to your future. ( and I'll see who I can poke on the native windows port front (no promises) )
abyesilyurt 3y ago
Congratulations and thank you Andreas for inspiring and encouraging developers like me to contribute to open source through your content. I began my open source journey by adding a snipping tool in screenshot utility to Serenity OS.
rglullis 3y ago
Could you perhaps write up how this came to be? Did you know anyone there already, or did the contact come through some previous network? Did you put together a pitch deck or did they reach out to you first? The reason I am asking is that I was some years ago I was working on an open source payment gateway for crypto which I was sure would be something interesting for companies like Shopify, and I even posted an "Ask HN" how I could approach companies to ask for sponsorships [0]. I'm not working on it anymore, but I'm pretty sure that I'd be if I were any better at establishing these connections. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23907711 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23907711
- akling 3y ago
  Tobi (Shopify CEO) has been supporting my open source work via GitHub Sponsors since early 2022, so I reached out to him and said (very paraphrased) "I'm gonna start pushing harder on Ladybird, would Shopify want to be an official sponsor?"
  - ljlolel 3y ago
    Also notice that the quoted engineer Mike Shaver was a leader at Mozilla before. So helps to have knowledgeable internal support too.
    - akling 3y ago
      Indeed! Mike has been really helpful :)
  - rglullis 3y ago
    Ok, so by induction... how did you get your first Github sponsors?
    - akling 3y ago
      I've been broadcasting my programming sessions on YouTube since 2019. I have over 1000 videos here: https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling Over time, my audience grew, and some people really liked my videos, so I first made a Patreon and later a GitHub Sponsors for those who wanted to help me turn it into a full-time job someday. Thanks to growing support, I was eventually able to make it a full-time job. For more details on this journey, I wrote about it here: https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/i-quit-my-job-to-focus-on-serenityos-full-time https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/i-quit-my-job-to-focus-o...
mysterydip 3y ago
I love the project and want to contribute somehow, but have limited time. What would be most helpful?
- akling 3y ago
  It depends on what you enjoy doing, and how much time you really have. Good bug reports & reduced test cases are always amazingly valuable. Perhaps you have a home page of your own? You can open it in Ladybird and see if you hit some problems. Maybe we throw a surprising JavaScript exception. Maybe our CSS layout isn't quite right. If you can then reduce the problem to a minimal HTML/CSS/JS example, that's often enough for someone working on the engine to go ahead and find a fix pretty easily. :)
  - mysterydip 3y ago
    I do, and a handful of html5 games to go with it. Compiling now, thanks!
keyle 3y ago
I'm really excited for you. Keep up the great content on youtube!
stefanos82 3y ago
Congrats my friend, well deserved brother, well deserved! My question is: can we get a Yak Shavers playlist on YouTube, where all SerenityOS development is gathered in one place? We have so much to learn from you people.
tambourine_man 3y ago
Your work is inspiring and humbling. Keep on.

by akling 3y ago

slekker 3y ago

Congratulations Andreas! One question that might have already popped up: with more and more attention going to Ladybird (in contrast to SerenityOS), how will these sponsorships direct what you do in both projects?

akling 3y ago
Thank you! Indeed, all of these large sponsorships so far have been specifically for Ladybird development. That’s also what I’ve been personally focusing on for many months already, so nothing really changes about my day-to-day. The main new thing this enables is hiring more full-time engineers to work on the browser. (Still have details to figure out here though!) That said, keep in mind that 99% of work on Ladybird also improves SerenityOS, since they are part of the same mega-project. :)
- prox 3y ago
  We just talked about browser choices yesterday. I really hope we get back a “people’s” browser and not boxed in experiences from Big Tech that the market currently has. I hope this project remains dedicated to such a vision!

jamesbfb 3y ago

Congrats mate! I’ve been following your work on SerenityOS since the 3rd or 4th video, and it’s been amazing to see the progression from then to now! You’ve definitely inspired me out of a few burnout humps over the years.

pkphilip 3y ago

Congratulations, Andreas! Keep up the good work on Serenity and Ladybird! I hope to move to using Serenity OS once it matures somewhat :)

bvm 3y ago

did this come about because shopify was the first page you visited in your May update video? nice bit of serendipity!

akling 3y ago
I first spoke with Tobi about this in mid-May, so it's been in the works for a while longer. :)

defrost 3y ago

Fantastic work on the OS and browser, congratulations on the sponsership. I look forward to your future. ( and I'll see who I can poke on the native windows port front (no promises) )

abyesilyurt 3y ago

Congratulations and thank you Andreas for inspiring and encouraging developers like me to contribute to open source through your content. I began my open source journey by adding a snipping tool in screenshot utility to Serenity OS.

rglullis 3y ago

Could you perhaps write up how this came to be? Did you know anyone there already, or did the contact come through some previous network? Did you put together a pitch deck or did they reach out to you first? The reason I am asking is that I was some years ago I was working on an open source payment gateway for crypto which I was sure would be something interesting for companies like Shopify, and I even posted an "Ask HN" how I could approach companies to ask for sponsorships [0]. I'm not working on it anymore, but I'm pretty sure that I'd be if I were any better at establishing these connections. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23907711 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23907711

akling 3y ago
Tobi (Shopify CEO) has been supporting my open source work via GitHub Sponsors since early 2022, so I reached out to him and said (very paraphrased) "I'm gonna start pushing harder on Ladybird, would Shopify want to be an official sponsor?"
- ljlolel 3y ago
  Also notice that the quoted engineer Mike Shaver was a leader at Mozilla before. So helps to have knowledgeable internal support too.
  - akling 3y ago
    Indeed! Mike has been really helpful :)
- rglullis 3y ago
  Ok, so by induction... how did you get your first Github sponsors?
  - akling 3y ago
    I've been broadcasting my programming sessions on YouTube since 2019. I have over 1000 videos here: https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling Over time, my audience grew, and some people really liked my videos, so I first made a Patreon and later a GitHub Sponsors for those who wanted to help me turn it into a full-time job someday. Thanks to growing support, I was eventually able to make it a full-time job. For more details on this journey, I wrote about it here: https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/i-quit-my-job-to-focus-on-serenityos-full-time https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/i-quit-my-job-to-focus-o...

mysterydip 3y ago

I love the project and want to contribute somehow, but have limited time. What would be most helpful?

akling 3y ago
It depends on what you enjoy doing, and how much time you really have. Good bug reports & reduced test cases are always amazingly valuable. Perhaps you have a home page of your own? You can open it in Ladybird and see if you hit some problems. Maybe we throw a surprising JavaScript exception. Maybe our CSS layout isn't quite right. If you can then reduce the problem to a minimal HTML/CSS/JS example, that's often enough for someone working on the engine to go ahead and find a fix pretty easily. :)
- mysterydip 3y ago
  I do, and a handful of html5 games to go with it. Compiling now, thanks!

keyle 3y ago

I'm really excited for you. Keep up the great content on youtube!

stefanos82 3y ago

Congrats my friend, well deserved brother, well deserved! My question is: can we get a Yak Shavers playlist on YouTube, where all SerenityOS development is gathered in one place? We have so much to learn from you people.

tambourine_man 3y ago

Your work is inspiring and humbling. Keep on.