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There is a lot of DMCA hate in these comments. I run a DMCA take down service where we remove revenge porn for people that are victimized by it. DMCA is the on

by lja 3y ago

There is a lot of DMCA hate in these comments. I run a DMCA take down service where we remove revenge porn for people that are victimized by it. DMCA is the only tool we have to take these images down so as much as there are holes and gaps in that law, it's not all bad.

ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
DMCA is a corrupt, offensive attack on consumer rights. Just because it can be used for laudable purposes doesn't change that.
- lja 3y ago
  Not saying it makes DMCA perfect, just wanted everyone here to know there are some really awesome, clever uses of DMCA that people use for good and if we torch the DMCA we should make sure we don't leave those folks out in the cold.
  - crvdgc 3y ago
    Thanks for sharing the use case. However using it to defend the entire DMCA sounds like a false dichotomy. Surely there's a way to make rules only for those "awesome" uses, so that they don't have to be "clever" uses. C stands for Copyright and it's mainly used that way in practice.
    - lja 3y ago
      Totally agree with everything you said, I just want to remind people that half of the story of DMCA is that we have really poor controls over our privacy and ironically DMCA is one of our only tools. It does have many, many broken aspects.
  - mcv 3y ago
    I applaud you for using the DMCA for good. You're doing good work, and please keep doing that. That doesn't mean that the DMCA can't also be used for evil, though. It would be nice if it could only be used for good, but maybe that's impossible. It may also be possible to replace it with something more specifically tailored to take down revenge porn. I certainly think revenge porn is far more serious than a mere copyright violation.
  - vanchor3 3y ago
    I don't really see how this is helping, you're just dragging your service down by getting it involved with this for no good reason.
    - lja 3y ago
      Given the homogenous demographic of HN, it’s safe to say we aren’t losing any business from here. There is nothing to drag down.
NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
Ah, a service predicated upon the Streisand effect. What could possibly go wrong?

by lja 3y ago

ShadowBanThis01 3y ago

DMCA is a corrupt, offensive attack on consumer rights. Just because it can be used for laudable purposes doesn't change that.

lja 3y ago
Not saying it makes DMCA perfect, just wanted everyone here to know there are some really awesome, clever uses of DMCA that people use for good and if we torch the DMCA we should make sure we don't leave those folks out in the cold.
- crvdgc 3y ago
  Thanks for sharing the use case. However using it to defend the entire DMCA sounds like a false dichotomy. Surely there's a way to make rules only for those "awesome" uses, so that they don't have to be "clever" uses. C stands for Copyright and it's mainly used that way in practice.
  - lja 3y ago
    Totally agree with everything you said, I just want to remind people that half of the story of DMCA is that we have really poor controls over our privacy and ironically DMCA is one of our only tools. It does have many, many broken aspects.
- mcv 3y ago
  I applaud you for using the DMCA for good. You're doing good work, and please keep doing that. That doesn't mean that the DMCA can't also be used for evil, though. It would be nice if it could only be used for good, but maybe that's impossible. It may also be possible to replace it with something more specifically tailored to take down revenge porn. I certainly think revenge porn is far more serious than a mere copyright violation.
- vanchor3 3y ago
  I don't really see how this is helping, you're just dragging your service down by getting it involved with this for no good reason.
  - lja 3y ago
    Given the homogenous demographic of HN, it’s safe to say we aren’t losing any business from here. There is nothing to drag down.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

Ah, a service predicated upon the Streisand effect. What could possibly go wrong?