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Look, I understand there's a lot of trouble in psychology in general and there has been some reproduction issues with that one. But the truth is, we all know in

Look, I understand there's a lot of trouble in psychology in general and there has been some reproduction issues with that one. But the truth is, we all know instances of the guy who thinks he knows everything just because he's good at something else and just thinks everything people went through to get where they are was a mistake. Whether or not this is a psychological thing in reality, it's something most of us have experienced and that's the name people know it by.

verall 3y ago
> we all know instances of the guy who thinks he knows everything just because he's good at something else That's _not_ Dunning-Kruger
- garbagecoder 3y ago
  Again, I'm not saying that's what it SHOULD be called, I'm saying it's a useful term for something we experience. At some point the wrong definition becomes the correct one, that's most etymologies. It's why people say "and I" as an object and don't know what question begging is or whatever. It just doesn't matter in the long run.
- uoaei 3y ago
  No, but the behavior expressed by adopting such an attitude is. Yours is a nitpick that is probably worth mentioning but doesn't really change the analysis.
  - garbagecoder 3y ago
    We just need a name for that now. Replyguy? Ackshually guy? Sounds too memey. The Nelson-Poindexter Effect?
ravi-delia 3y ago
That's not even what the original study claimed to find though! It caught on because it seems so intuitive, yes, but the specific curve of confidence vs. skill doesn't seem to look like that at all.
- garbagecoder 3y ago
  This is how memes or memetics or just language works though. Things often get called something they aren't and if it sticks it sticks. I'm not saying it's correct or whatever, just that it stuck because it vaguely gave a name for something people experience and didn't have a name for before. Look through any etymological dictionary and you'll see this phenomenon. What does a computer have to do with "to strike" in PIE? Something! But it's not the literal meaning.
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verall 3y ago

> we all know instances of the guy who thinks he knows everything just because he's good at something else That's _not_ Dunning-Kruger

garbagecoder 3y ago
Again, I'm not saying that's what it SHOULD be called, I'm saying it's a useful term for something we experience. At some point the wrong definition becomes the correct one, that's most etymologies. It's why people say "and I" as an object and don't know what question begging is or whatever. It just doesn't matter in the long run.
uoaei 3y ago
No, but the behavior expressed by adopting such an attitude is. Yours is a nitpick that is probably worth mentioning but doesn't really change the analysis.
- garbagecoder 3y ago
  We just need a name for that now. Replyguy? Ackshually guy? Sounds too memey. The Nelson-Poindexter Effect?

ravi-delia 3y ago

That's not even what the original study claimed to find though! It caught on because it seems so intuitive, yes, but the specific curve of confidence vs. skill doesn't seem to look like that at all.

garbagecoder 3y ago
This is how memes or memetics or just language works though. Things often get called something they aren't and if it sticks it sticks. I'm not saying it's correct or whatever, just that it stuck because it vaguely gave a name for something people experience and didn't have a name for before. Look through any etymological dictionary and you'll see this phenomenon. What does a computer have to do with "to strike" in PIE? Something! But it's not the literal meaning.
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