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Sounds a bit like IRC to be honest.

by chrisrogers 3y ago

DanAtC 3y ago
IRC is ephemeral. Discord becomes a de facto knowledge dump like Slack in the corporate world.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  In theory. In practice, like Slack, Discord is unsearchable. As someone rightly said on another thread: Discord is where knowledge goes to die.
  - Euphorbium 3y ago
    Until you train llm on it. Which WILL happen.
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      LLMs perform lossy compression on knowledge, so they're not a good replacement for indexing and search. If anything, you want to have the latter, and expose it to LLM as a tool it can use, regardless of whether the LLM was trained/fine-tuned on that same content or not.
- lost_tourist 3y ago
  more like a knowledge blackhole.
TeMPOraL 3y ago
It's all the worst aspects of IRC in shiny web package.
Zardoz84 3y ago
but IRC was never controlled by a unique corporation/business. Was community driven
dfxm12 3y ago
It's different in that IRC is designed & understood to be short lived real time chat. Who cares if I can't find that type of content via Google? Discord is being used as a permanent info repository, like a replacement for discussion boards, wikis, etc. This is the type of info I want to search for.
toastercat 3y ago
I've seen some IRC channels archive their chat as search-able HTML pages that are also indexed by search engines. Wish Discord servers would do something similar.
- beached_whale 3y ago
  being in the irc room and logging it is enough and only requires access to the room.
- edrxty 3y ago
  Discord knows better, this is by design. Their investors would run screaming if they knew what was in those chat logs. The lack of searchability is their biggest defense against being hauled in front of Congress because the public just isn't aware of how much of the platform is extremism.
  - toastercat 3y ago
    That's too bad, because a lot of open-source projects have moved to Discord, and it's an absolute pain that every time I want to search, I have to 1. login and 2. join yet another Discord server.
    - onedr0p 3y ago
      I find it easy to mute and put the ones I don't frequent often in a folder and only go there when I need to. I only actively visit and contribute to 2 Discord servers but that number might grow if the reddit communities stay dark (and I don't blame them for doing so). I would take Discord over Slack or Gitter any day of the week. Slack only retains 90ish days of text chat which makes it an awful platform for open-source projects to use. It hurts my brain that CNCF and Kubernetes use this as a platform. At least in Discord I can search thru years of content and discover a discussion instead of asking the same questions over and over.
      - toastercat 3y ago

Sounds a bit like IRC to be honest.

DanAtC 3y ago

IRC is ephemeral. Discord becomes a de facto knowledge dump like Slack in the corporate world.

TeMPOraL 3y ago
In theory. In practice, like Slack, Discord is unsearchable. As someone rightly said on another thread: Discord is where knowledge goes to die.
- Euphorbium 3y ago
  Until you train llm on it. Which WILL happen.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    LLMs perform lossy compression on knowledge, so they're not a good replacement for indexing and search. If anything, you want to have the latter, and expose it to LLM as a tool it can use, regardless of whether the LLM was trained/fine-tuned on that same content or not.
lost_tourist 3y ago
more like a knowledge blackhole.

TeMPOraL 3y ago

It's all the worst aspects of IRC in shiny web package.

Zardoz84 3y ago

but IRC was never controlled by a unique corporation/business. Was community driven

dfxm12 3y ago

It's different in that IRC is designed & understood to be short lived real time chat. Who cares if I can't find that type of content via Google? Discord is being used as a permanent info repository, like a replacement for discussion boards, wikis, etc. This is the type of info I want to search for.

toastercat 3y ago

I've seen some IRC channels archive their chat as search-able HTML pages that are also indexed by search engines. Wish Discord servers would do something similar.

beached_whale 3y ago
being in the irc room and logging it is enough and only requires access to the room.
edrxty 3y ago
Discord knows better, this is by design. Their investors would run screaming if they knew what was in those chat logs. The lack of searchability is their biggest defense against being hauled in front of Congress because the public just isn't aware of how much of the platform is extremism.
- toastercat 3y ago
  That's too bad, because a lot of open-source projects have moved to Discord, and it's an absolute pain that every time I want to search, I have to 1. login and 2. join yet another Discord server.
  - onedr0p 3y ago
    I find it easy to mute and put the ones I don't frequent often in a folder and only go there when I need to. I only actively visit and contribute to 2 Discord servers but that number might grow if the reddit communities stay dark (and I don't blame them for doing so). I would take Discord over Slack or Gitter any day of the week. Slack only retains 90ish days of text chat which makes it an awful platform for open-source projects to use. It hurts my brain that CNCF and Kubernetes use this as a platform. At least in Discord I can search thru years of content and discover a discussion instead of asking the same questions over and over.
    - toastercat 3y ago