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He was free to chose his own pronouns and keep his gender ideology to himself. The company is also free to chose the policy that maximizes the well-being of mos

He was free to chose his own pronouns and keep his gender ideology to himself. The company is also free to chose the policy that maximizes the well-being of most employees. Instead, he decided to engage in proselytizing at work, well deserved imo.

version_five 3y ago
That's not how I read it. He was "pressured" or forced depending on how you interpret the article to play that game and couldn't leave it blank. So he lashed out a bit when provoked. At least he took a stand and didn't just capitulate and play that stupid game. I wouldn't say I agree with putting something inflammatory, but it's way more respectable that just letting something absurd get forced on you. I would have just quit. (Same as I would quit if I was asked to affirm I believed in the principles of any religion, as sometimes comes up).
- locopati 3y ago
  Something absurd like asking someone how they want to be referred to in the third person?
  - version_five 3y ago
    If someone feels that's a critical piece of information to share, nothing is stopping them. My understanding is that he was being coerced into doing that himself when it wasn't relevant to him, and in fact he found it offensive to be aksed. So yes it's absurd. (I'm not sure I should have replied, I consider the whole issue too stupid to spend time on other than to say "piss off, adults are talking", but anyway)
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    - iLoveOncall 3y ago
      > If someone feels that's a critical piece of information to share, nothing is stopping them. My understanding is that Assigned by God was being coerced into doing that Assigned by Godself when it wasn't relevant to Assigned by God, and in fact Assigned by God found it offensive to be aksed. So yes it's absurd. FTFY.
  - AdrianB1 3y ago
    Is "referred in the third person" something flexible, like a preference? If yes, where is the limit, if any limit exists? Or is it like a nickname, where you can chose anything? Then it is no longer a pronoun, but a nickname or alias.
  - George83728 3y ago
    A man has a right to be offended by somebody asking him if he is a man. (Woman too, for that matter.) Asking everybody their pronouns by default is an overtly political act, meant to re-engineer society to be more accommodating to people who's preferred pronouns do not match their visual appearance. The idea is that if everybody lists their pronouns, those people who's pronoun doesn't match their appearance will seem less conspicuous when they specify their preference. Since this listing of pronounces is a fundamentally a political act, you shouldn't be surprised when you encounter people who don't wish to participate in this sort of political action. Furthermore it is clearly inappropriate for employers to coerce workers to participating in such activism.
- DanBC 3y ago
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  - JasserInicide 3y ago
    This entire post is one giant projection. There used to be a time when discussing politics/sexuality/religion at work was basically taboo. Now it's encouraged and companies use it as a marketing tactic. At my work's yearly gathering last year, one of our VPs said his team are actively working to hire people that aren't white or male. He said that with 100% seriousness. Replace that with any other race/gender and they'd most likely be terminated within the week. I don't care what people call themselves/who they sleep with, it's not my business. But to expect everyone to be just fine and dandy with all of this stuff now being encouraged/forced (especially when it's occurred in such a short timespan) is ludicrous.
    - cholantesh 3y ago
      >Replace that with any other race/gender and they'd most likely be terminated within the week. Probably because those other races/genders have been and are marginalized, and white males, when correcting for other demographic factors, have not. >I don't care what people call themselves/who they sleep with, it's not my business. Evidently you do, because when it is pointed out to you, your reaction isn't indifference but pronounced annoyance.
Nextgrid 3y ago
If he was free to choose then "assigned by god" is just as valid as any other pronoun.
gdy 3y ago
"the policy that maximizes the well-being of most employees" Of most?

version_five 3y ago

That's not how I read it. He was "pressured" or forced depending on how you interpret the article to play that game and couldn't leave it blank. So he lashed out a bit when provoked. At least he took a stand and didn't just capitulate and play that stupid game. I wouldn't say I agree with putting something inflammatory, but it's way more respectable that just letting something absurd get forced on you. I would have just quit. (Same as I would quit if I was asked to affirm I believed in the principles of any religion, as sometimes comes up).

locopati 3y ago
Something absurd like asking someone how they want to be referred to in the third person?
- version_five 3y ago
  If someone feels that's a critical piece of information to share, nothing is stopping them. My understanding is that he was being coerced into doing that himself when it wasn't relevant to him, and in fact he found it offensive to be aksed. So yes it's absurd. (I'm not sure I should have replied, I consider the whole issue too stupid to spend time on other than to say "piss off, adults are talking", but anyway)
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  - iLoveOncall 3y ago
    > If someone feels that's a critical piece of information to share, nothing is stopping them. My understanding is that Assigned by God was being coerced into doing that Assigned by Godself when it wasn't relevant to Assigned by God, and in fact Assigned by God found it offensive to be aksed. So yes it's absurd. FTFY.
- AdrianB1 3y ago
  Is "referred in the third person" something flexible, like a preference? If yes, where is the limit, if any limit exists? Or is it like a nickname, where you can chose anything? Then it is no longer a pronoun, but a nickname or alias.
- George83728 3y ago
  A man has a right to be offended by somebody asking him if he is a man. (Woman too, for that matter.) Asking everybody their pronouns by default is an overtly political act, meant to re-engineer society to be more accommodating to people who's preferred pronouns do not match their visual appearance. The idea is that if everybody lists their pronouns, those people who's pronoun doesn't match their appearance will seem less conspicuous when they specify their preference. Since this listing of pronounces is a fundamentally a political act, you shouldn't be surprised when you encounter people who don't wish to participate in this sort of political action. Furthermore it is clearly inappropriate for employers to coerce workers to participating in such activism.
DanBC 3y ago
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- JasserInicide 3y ago
  This entire post is one giant projection. There used to be a time when discussing politics/sexuality/religion at work was basically taboo. Now it's encouraged and companies use it as a marketing tactic. At my work's yearly gathering last year, one of our VPs said his team are actively working to hire people that aren't white or male. He said that with 100% seriousness. Replace that with any other race/gender and they'd most likely be terminated within the week. I don't care what people call themselves/who they sleep with, it's not my business. But to expect everyone to be just fine and dandy with all of this stuff now being encouraged/forced (especially when it's occurred in such a short timespan) is ludicrous.
  - cholantesh 3y ago
    >Replace that with any other race/gender and they'd most likely be terminated within the week. Probably because those other races/genders have been and are marginalized, and white males, when correcting for other demographic factors, have not. >I don't care what people call themselves/who they sleep with, it's not my business. Evidently you do, because when it is pointed out to you, your reaction isn't indifference but pronounced annoyance.

Nextgrid 3y ago

If he was free to choose then "assigned by god" is just as valid as any other pronoun.

gdy 3y ago

"the policy that maximizes the well-being of most employees" Of most?