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Wow you should visit China though, it's great. I feel for those who don't get to experience the benefits of globalization.

by wazer5 3y ago

marianatom 3y ago
lol, how presumptuous. I have visited China in 2007, before it turned authoritarian/dictatorship. I would not visit China again to support the dictatorship. I can visit any number of democratic countries like Taiwan. I feel for those who don't get that they are supporting evil. Btw, speaking of evil, China isn't giving up yet (Xi still have 10-20 years to live. free organ transplants from young Chinese, you know. high ranking politicians get them for free). It is producing destroyers at a massive rate, and will exceed # of destroyers that US has by 2040. Combined with the millions of disposable unemployed single young men, and there's still a chance that Taiwan would overwhelmed. and if Taiwan falls, the same strategy can be used to conquer Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Australia.
- jldugger 3y ago
  > will exceed # of destroyers that US has by 2040 Bear in mind that China has pretty much no oil and these 055 destroyer boats are diesel&gas turbine powered. And the US has been slowly winding down military presence since the Cold War ended basically[1]. And lemme tell you, if Taiwan goes hot, there wont be any USN boats spare to patrol the Middle East -> South China sea route, and nobody would be angry if any oil tankers on that route go missing. [1]: https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/graph-of-the-week-why-fleet-size-matters/ https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/graph-of-the-week-why-flee...
  - Detrytus 3y ago
    > Bear in mind that China has pretty much no oil and these 055 destroyer boats are diesel&gas turbine powered. Well, then they are lucky that Russia, now sanctioned by the West, has no choice but to sell all their oil to China, at discount prices.
    - jldugger 3y ago
      By way of one tiny pipeline that has to travel across an entire continent the long way, or via boat through the suez canal?
      - dfadsadsf 3y ago
        There is oil in Sakhalin Island, new pipelines are planned and existing railways are fully capable to transport enough oil to sustain military campaign if China curtains civilian oil consumption (like every country at war did in WW2). Frankly highlighting China dependence on maritime trade is a cope. It just won’t matter much in hot war.
      - CRConrad 3y ago
        > or via boat through the suez canal? Nah. Ship.
- robbiep 3y ago
  There is no logical, or even mythical, reason to conquer another territory (excluding taiwan from this). China really wants to be involved in long term insurgencies across Asia? Why?
pdonis 3y ago
The "greatness" of China is an excellent example of Cheops' Law: You can do anything you put your mind to if you have an endless supply of expendable labor.
randomopining 3y ago
Great in which way? I guess working for peanuts is a great step up for people who suffered through famines. Otherwise it's the common battle between "orderliness at any cost" and freedoms. US or Europe seems to strike a better balance, for all of their shortcomings. In China its ruled by the CCP with an iron fist.

Wow you should visit China though, it's great. I feel for those who don't get to experience the benefits of globalization.

by wazer5 3y ago

Wow you should visit China though, it's great. I feel for those who don't get to experience the benefits of globalization.

marianatom 3y ago

lol, how presumptuous. I have visited China in 2007, before it turned authoritarian/dictatorship. I would not visit China again to support the dictatorship. I can visit any number of democratic countries like Taiwan. I feel for those who don't get that they are supporting evil. Btw, speaking of evil, China isn't giving up yet (Xi still have 10-20 years to live. free organ transplants from young Chinese, you know. high ranking politicians get them for free). It is producing destroyers at a massive rate, and will exceed # of destroyers that US has by 2040. Combined with the millions of disposable unemployed single young men, and there's still a chance that Taiwan would overwhelmed. and if Taiwan falls, the same strategy can be used to conquer Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Australia.

jldugger 3y ago
> will exceed # of destroyers that US has by 2040 Bear in mind that China has pretty much no oil and these 055 destroyer boats are diesel&gas turbine powered. And the US has been slowly winding down military presence since the Cold War ended basically[1]. And lemme tell you, if Taiwan goes hot, there wont be any USN boats spare to patrol the Middle East -> South China sea route, and nobody would be angry if any oil tankers on that route go missing. [1]: https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/graph-of-the-week-why-fleet-size-matters/ https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/graph-of-the-week-why-flee...
- Detrytus 3y ago
  > Bear in mind that China has pretty much no oil and these 055 destroyer boats are diesel&gas turbine powered. Well, then they are lucky that Russia, now sanctioned by the West, has no choice but to sell all their oil to China, at discount prices.
  - jldugger 3y ago
    By way of one tiny pipeline that has to travel across an entire continent the long way, or via boat through the suez canal?
    - dfadsadsf 3y ago
      There is oil in Sakhalin Island, new pipelines are planned and existing railways are fully capable to transport enough oil to sustain military campaign if China curtains civilian oil consumption (like every country at war did in WW2). Frankly highlighting China dependence on maritime trade is a cope. It just won’t matter much in hot war.
    - CRConrad 3y ago
      > or via boat through the suez canal? Nah. Ship.
robbiep 3y ago
There is no logical, or even mythical, reason to conquer another territory (excluding taiwan from this). China really wants to be involved in long term insurgencies across Asia? Why?

pdonis 3y ago

The "greatness" of China is an excellent example of Cheops' Law: You can do anything you put your mind to if you have an endless supply of expendable labor.

randomopining 3y ago

Great in which way? I guess working for peanuts is a great step up for people who suffered through famines. Otherwise it's the common battle between "orderliness at any cost" and freedoms. US or Europe seems to strike a better balance, for all of their shortcomings. In China its ruled by the CCP with an iron fist.