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"Return to office, what's left of it"

by photonbucket 3y ago

bluefirebrand 3y ago
You thought it was bad before, now we're going to cram you into an even smaller open floor plan.
- barbazoo 3y ago
  It'll enable collaboration
  - ddalex 3y ago
    Being forced to sit on co-workers lap while desk-sharing (and chair-sharing) will enable even closer collaboration
    - XenophileJKO 3y ago
      It isn't exactly "innovative". I expected google to be on the cutting edge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wUOUmeulNs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wUOUmeulNs
    - deleted 3y ago
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- A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
  About 6 months ago my manager, who happens to prefer RTO told me how if I only visit office sometime, I should not expect to have a desk. I was amused, but I did not ask if that means I can just stay home then. Clearly management class figured out a fun little plan. Announce RTO so that people can 'self-select' thus reducing headcount ( lower cost ), introduce hybrid ( so that you can claim you are flexible in posting even if you offer 1 remote day out of 5 and save real estate at the same time ), sell non-performing real estate ( lower cost ) and cramming employees into rotating cubicles ( efficiency ). What does it all translate to? Bonuses. I am not exactly a revolutionary type, but its now or never if you are on a particular side of the fence. Whatever window is there to establish a normal, it is closing now.
  - worrycue 3y ago
    > people can 'self-select' thus reducing headcount Self-select usually mean the brightest and most capable select another job though.
    - A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
      That is the weirdest part of this whole shift for me. Remote positions now get tons of applications and can afford to select best possible candidates, while 'old guard' is left with 'not best' candidates. Granted, some positions do not need a rocket scientist, but one would think a company would want someone, who is capable enough to have options. And yet, HRs across the US spectrum seem to be sending the same memo. I am mildly annoyed by this, because I had a mini-conversation today and the tone from an executive was: business won't let this ( WFH ) stand. Maybe it is not about best possible candidate. Maybe they are ok with less capable people for whatever reason.
      - eastbound 3y ago
        Cliché that the best people are among the remote workers. Are they, though? Coding well doesn’t make a good programmer. Interaction does, and influence in the office does. I think remote workers just hate office politics, like everyone else, but that makes them non-contributing to company growth.
        A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
        I think it is a valid question and I will attempt to respond in good faith. I do not personally think that there is no value to politics. Sadly, we have to navigate those waters somehow. But, if people who self-select out say they do not want to deal with it and instead contribute to company growth one line at a time, why would you not allow them to specialize in that? Or are they just an easy target practice for politically astute? FWIW, I am probably not a great remote worker. Still, good enough to get the job done. What more does an employer want from me? They are good enough to me that I can extent some loyalty and goodwill, but why would a company want me to also participate and contribute to its craziness politically? << Cliché that the best people are among the remote workers. Well, it is that way now because fully remote work is in demand if you look at sheer application numbers for those roles. Companies have their picks for those. Anecdotally, my company, where my manager is RTO-oriented, but does not seem to want to rock the boat too much, begrudgingly seems to have accepted that for the position he listed ( niche in niche kinda deal ), he won't get a guy to just move from another state just to sit in a chair one day a week ( and depend on corporate whims ) so he had to accept that reality. Mebbe its a cliche, but, not unlike stereotype, there is a reason it exists.
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  A "concentration floor plan"?
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  I am bullish on apple’s vr headsets. That is all you’ll have room for. No desks!
notacoward 3y ago
"Return to ofc"

"Return to office, what's left of it"

bluefirebrand 3y ago

You thought it was bad before, now we're going to cram you into an even smaller open floor plan.

barbazoo 3y ago
It'll enable collaboration
- ddalex 3y ago
  Being forced to sit on co-workers lap while desk-sharing (and chair-sharing) will enable even closer collaboration
  - XenophileJKO 3y ago
    It isn't exactly "innovative". I expected google to be on the cutting edge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wUOUmeulNs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wUOUmeulNs
  - deleted 3y ago
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A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
About 6 months ago my manager, who happens to prefer RTO told me how if I only visit office sometime, I should not expect to have a desk. I was amused, but I did not ask if that means I can just stay home then. Clearly management class figured out a fun little plan. Announce RTO so that people can 'self-select' thus reducing headcount ( lower cost ), introduce hybrid ( so that you can claim you are flexible in posting even if you offer 1 remote day out of 5 and save real estate at the same time ), sell non-performing real estate ( lower cost ) and cramming employees into rotating cubicles ( efficiency ). What does it all translate to? Bonuses. I am not exactly a revolutionary type, but its now or never if you are on a particular side of the fence. Whatever window is there to establish a normal, it is closing now.
- worrycue 3y ago
  > people can 'self-select' thus reducing headcount Self-select usually mean the brightest and most capable select another job though.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
    That is the weirdest part of this whole shift for me. Remote positions now get tons of applications and can afford to select best possible candidates, while 'old guard' is left with 'not best' candidates. Granted, some positions do not need a rocket scientist, but one would think a company would want someone, who is capable enough to have options. And yet, HRs across the US spectrum seem to be sending the same memo. I am mildly annoyed by this, because I had a mini-conversation today and the tone from an executive was: business won't let this ( WFH ) stand. Maybe it is not about best possible candidate. Maybe they are ok with less capable people for whatever reason.
    - eastbound 3y ago
      Cliché that the best people are among the remote workers. Are they, though? Coding well doesn’t make a good programmer. Interaction does, and influence in the office does. I think remote workers just hate office politics, like everyone else, but that makes them non-contributing to company growth.
      - A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
        I think it is a valid question and I will attempt to respond in good faith. I do not personally think that there is no value to politics. Sadly, we have to navigate those waters somehow. But, if people who self-select out say they do not want to deal with it and instead contribute to company growth one line at a time, why would you not allow them to specialize in that? Or are they just an easy target practice for politically astute? FWIW, I am probably not a great remote worker. Still, good enough to get the job done. What more does an employer want from me? They are good enough to me that I can extent some loyalty and goodwill, but why would a company want me to also participate and contribute to its craziness politically? << Cliché that the best people are among the remote workers. Well, it is that way now because fully remote work is in demand if you look at sheer application numbers for those roles. Companies have their picks for those. Anecdotally, my company, where my manager is RTO-oriented, but does not seem to want to rock the boat too much, begrudgingly seems to have accepted that for the position he listed ( niche in niche kinda deal ), he won't get a guy to just move from another state just to sit in a chair one day a week ( and depend on corporate whims ) so he had to accept that reality. Mebbe its a cliche, but, not unlike stereotype, there is a reason it exists.
AtlasBarfed 3y ago
A "concentration floor plan"?
quickthrower2 3y ago
I am bullish on apple’s vr headsets. That is all you’ll have room for. No desks!

notacoward 3y ago

"Return to ofc"