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> Homes are full of distractions Offices are even more full of distractions, over which you have far less control. At home, I can designate my own closed offi

> Homes are full of distractions Offices are even more full of distractions, over which you have far less control. At home, I can designate my own closed office. I have full control. I can remain distraction-free. How does that compare to an open-plan office? People constantly walking and talking around you, many of whom have nothing to do with your job. You simply can't control that. You can't control the noise. You can't control being called into useless meetings or getting pulled into senseless distracting conversations. If you're a senior, you might get pinged multiple times every hour by juniors asking for advice, instead of being able to buffer these interruptions once every hour or two. Hard to buffer requests and questions when they are a tap on the shoulder instead of a message waiting in some inbox.

nextlevelwizard 3y ago
>At home, I can designate my own closed office. You conveniently left out the part about some people having the luxurity of personal office. The amount of people I see working on their coach or at kitchen table far out weight the amount of people who actually have a whole room dedicated to their work. I for one don't have extra room just for work, but at least I have dedicated computer table, so I dont have to share the kitchen table or the coffee table.
- dijit 3y ago
  and you conveniently left out the part where we are: A) Very handsomely paid B) Not as tied to an expensive city (if remote is an option) C) Able to ask our employers to pass on office space savings to us.
  - nextlevelwizard 3y ago
    At least I am not paid enough where I could just buy a bigger apartment with extra room "just because" nor do I live in an expensive city.
    - dijit 3y ago
      Not sure what you earn, but I think the average tech salary can get you an enormous place in a non-centrally located area of basically any city. Even in the UK, where home prices are exorbitant right now, you can get a 4 bedroom home in the outskirts of Birmingham for the same price of a 2 bedroom flat in central Birmingham. Heres a couple of homes to show the price difference. Note: that the prices themselves are not relevant only that they're the same. Flat: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/132806696#/?channel=RES_BUY https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/132806696#/?channel=R... House: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131243774#/?channel=RES_BUY https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131243774#/?channel=R...
      - nextlevelwizard 3y ago
        >Not sure what you earn Nowhere close to 500k
        dijit 3y ago
        I mean, current mortgages are 6x yearly salary. and current median salaries for senior positions remote from London are 80k GBP so, yeah, should be ok.
        nextlevelwizard 3y ago
        Implying I want to be half a mil in debt for a apartment instead of just... going to the office
        dijit 3y ago
        I was just giving an illustration of how it is, in one of the most skewed markets for engineer income to house price ratio. I said if you don't have to live centrally, you can put that money into a bigger house, and it pays significantly more (double the number of bedrooms, not just dedicated office space). You dont want to do that? thats fine, but you cant pretend that its materially more expensive to have a home office if suddenly you are not geolocked.

nextlevelwizard 3y ago

>At home, I can designate my own closed office. You conveniently left out the part about some people having the luxurity of personal office. The amount of people I see working on their coach or at kitchen table far out weight the amount of people who actually have a whole room dedicated to their work. I for one don't have extra room just for work, but at least I have dedicated computer table, so I dont have to share the kitchen table or the coffee table.

dijit 3y ago
and you conveniently left out the part where we are: A) Very handsomely paid B) Not as tied to an expensive city (if remote is an option) C) Able to ask our employers to pass on office space savings to us.
- nextlevelwizard 3y ago
  At least I am not paid enough where I could just buy a bigger apartment with extra room "just because" nor do I live in an expensive city.
  - dijit 3y ago
    Not sure what you earn, but I think the average tech salary can get you an enormous place in a non-centrally located area of basically any city. Even in the UK, where home prices are exorbitant right now, you can get a 4 bedroom home in the outskirts of Birmingham for the same price of a 2 bedroom flat in central Birmingham. Heres a couple of homes to show the price difference. Note: that the prices themselves are not relevant only that they're the same. Flat: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/132806696#/?channel=RES_BUY https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/132806696#/?channel=R... House: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131243774#/?channel=RES_BUY https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131243774#/?channel=R...
    - nextlevelwizard 3y ago
      >Not sure what you earn Nowhere close to 500k
      - dijit 3y ago
        I mean, current mortgages are 6x yearly salary. and current median salaries for senior positions remote from London are 80k GBP so, yeah, should be ok.
        nextlevelwizard 3y ago
        Implying I want to be half a mil in debt for a apartment instead of just... going to the office
        dijit 3y ago
        I was just giving an illustration of how it is, in one of the most skewed markets for engineer income to house price ratio. I said if you don't have to live centrally, you can put that money into a bigger house, and it pays significantly more (double the number of bedrooms, not just dedicated office space). You dont want to do that? thats fine, but you cant pretend that its materially more expensive to have a home office if suddenly you are not geolocked.