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Far from not being listened to - the green movement absolutely killed nuclear development and research in the 1980's and continue to fear monger about that issu
by jasmer 3y ago
Far from not being listened to - the green movement absolutely killed nuclear development and research in the 1980's and continue to fear monger about that issue, in places like Germany, the fear is generationally entrenched.
The buildout curve grows rapidly in 1980's and 1980's and then drops to 0 in the early 1990's [1].
Were the USA to have 'kept the pace' on that buildout, 60-85% of current electricity generation in USA would be supplied by Nuclear, much as it is in France.
The denialism of the green crowd is existentially damaging to their credibility.
With respect to climate change, far from 'not being listened to' - they're the most influential NGO movement maybe in history (aside from religious movements) - and influence government policy all over the world, at the highest levels, towards a fundamental reshaping of the economic basis.
Mixed in with the 'climate movement' are all sorts of other ideologies, particularly those against consumption etc. which gives you hints as to why they won't chose a relatively clear 'almost solution' to their supposedly existential problems.
If there's a funny bit of history it's that Greenpeace has caused climate change. They saved the Whales, which is nice, but they killed Nuclear (and continue to hold it back) which is bad.
Look at the data from the EIA. Look at those numbers, rate of buildout, and the % contribution made to US energy generation mix. Extend the growth phase (which stopped in 1990) out 20 more years. What is the result?
The result is relatively easy reach to Paris targets.
[1] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/us-nuclear-industry.php https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/us-nuclear-indus...
- triceratops 3y agoThe "green warriors" today want all of us to go vegan, fly less, bike everywhere, live in dense cities, and buy new clothes once every 5 years. How do you rate the chances of them succeeding at any of those things, like they supposedly "killed nuclear power"? Clearly someone else, with actual power and influence, wanted to kill nuclear. The environmentalists made for a convenient scapegoat. You fell for it too.