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TPUs are mostly hoarded by Google Research (including Deepmind) and Ads. Very few are being used by external people.
by ioedward 3y ago
TPUs are mostly hoarded by Google Research (including Deepmind) and Ads. Very few are being used by external people.
- vintermann 3y agoThe greatest artificial minds of our generation are thinking about how to make us click on ads?
- ktta 3y agoIt's been that way for over a decade now. Welcome
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- philjohn 3y agoIt was ads that made the money to develop the artificial minds in the first place.
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- exikyut 3y agoThis is technically correct to the extent of paperclip maximization and I don't like it.
- papruapap 3y agoThat is only true for Google. If anything bootstrapped AI, it was gaming.
- replygirl 3y agowhat's the gaming story? most of the ai we know today builds on academic work going back to the 90s
- donkeybeer 3y agoProbably refers to the development of and increase in computing power of gpus, I guess.
- selectodude 3y agoIt’s matrix multiplication all the way down.
- laserlight 3y agoLast time I checked, OpenAI wasn't earning money from ads.
- lordswork 3y agoLast time I checked, OpenAI didn't develop transformers.
- brookst 3y agoThis is starting to sound very paperclippy. Ads fund the AIs to make us click on ads to fund AIs that are even better at getting us to click on even more ads.
- flir 3y agoIt's ok, as soon as the AI figures out a better way to gather resources, it'll pivot. (this is not meant to be reassuring).
- lubesGordi 3y agoYeah, and look at how some very simple clustering ML/recommender systems impact social/political dynamics all to keep people engaged on the site and maximize chances to click ads ( see youtube/facebook, etc. ).
- temp0826 3y agoEx Machina vibes
- f6v 3y agoHow else would I know that “Elon Musk created a TeslaX platform that allows everyone to get rich”? Or was it Pavel Durov… Seriously, I can’t even report these on YouTube.
- wiz21c 3y agoDamn right but I don't understand why. That is, why is ads business generating so much profits that it allows to build such ridiculously powerfull devices ? Is it because it's genuinely full of money or is it because Google is so central that it makes tons of money out of lots an dlots and lots of small adverts ?
- h4kor 3y agoMy working theory is, that advertising is the overhead cost of doing capitalism. There is a certain percentage of resources which have to be spent on advertising to keep the system functioning. Google is good at grabbing a large portion of a huge pile of money.
- mordae 3y agoNot really. It's sufficient to show cool products in "TV" shows (robotic vacuum cleaner in a procedural crime drama might even be a plot device, absorbing murderer's hair to be found by detectives, gasp!). Coupled with a magazine or a show presenting new product categories for those interested, customers will eventually visit a physical or online shop and check out the goods. And then word of mouth will do the rest. Aggressive advertising will mostly just help you get ahead of your competitors and perhaps speed up the adoption rate at the cost of increased volatility of the market and to the detriment of people's mental health. We would be better off regulating aggressive ads away.
- WJW 3y ago> Aggressive advertising will mostly just help you get ahead of your competitors That's a hell of a load-bearing "just" you managed to insert there. Getting ahead of your competitors in market share can be the difference between having a company succeed or fail.
- chromoblob 3y agoSo if nobody is "getting ahead of competitors", does it mean that "capitalism is not functioning"? (which was the point of the comment to which the reply was)
- rapiz 3y agoIt's ads that makes the market efficient. Potential customers should know the corresponding producers so that the information assumption of a ideal market stands.
- throw10920 3y agoAds can have both persuasive (propaganda) and informative functions. Informative ads make the market more efficient. Persuasive ads actively make the market less efficient. Most ads in the US in 2023 seem to be persuasive. Perhaps the ad industry would become more useful (and smaller) if we managed to effectively regulate it to significantly reduce the persuasive bits. I think that most people would support this if you explained it right - from the free-market perspective, this would give you a better market.
- nazka 3y agoNo some are into the space industry. So we can have internet anywhere. To click on ads.
- whywhywhywhy 3y agoIt’s not very good at it if it is.
- itslennysfault 3y agoA little freaky when you think about what that really means. Some of the most advanced AI systems in the world are solely focused on being good at manipulating human behavior. Cool... cool cool cool............
- czx4f4bd 3y agoTangentially, I think this explains the conspiracy theory that ad companies are spying on everyone's phones and serving ads based on what we talk about in real life. Think about all the stuff ChatGPT and GPT-4 can do with even minimal prompting. Even when they hallucinate, the text is still ostensibly coherent and natural sounding. Now imagine a similarly powerful model, but its input is a ton of metadata about your behavior and its output is ads. Now consider that adtech has had substantially more funding for substantially longer than research into LLMs, so ad serving models are probably way more powerful and optimized than even GPT-4. It's freaky to think about indeed.