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Automatic weapons aren't allowed and I haven't even ever seen one even while being around guns for 20 years casually but not THAT casually. I suppose you mean

Automatic weapons aren't allowed and I haven't even ever seen one even while being around guns for 20 years casually but not THAT casually. I suppose you mean semi automatic weapons.. which is basically 95% of guns in the homes of Americans.

Prickle 3y ago
To my understanding, Machine gun licenses are still sold in the US on extremely stringent terms. Some, like the famous American 180 (Otherwise known as the Angry Bees) are grand-fathered in and allowed to be used.
- tempfortwitt90 3y ago
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  - vkou 3y ago
    If guns deterred crime, red states, and cities in red states wouldn't be topping the violent crime charts in this country. It's a fantasy. The reality is that gun vendors and political pundits do a great business in preying on your fears and anxiety.
    - tempfortwitt90 3y ago
      Criminals going to criminal. Beyond that, a gun in the hands of a law abiding citizen helps reduce crime.
  - Prickle 3y ago
    Yea, I have a friend in California. There is usually a shootout of some kind every week after sundown. It's been happening for about 4 years straight at this point. He had to help the police last year due to a small gang bust that happened on his street. It's seems that things are getting desperate, especially since civilians are apparently needed to help. (He does have a short military service record, which is why the request happened at all.)
- hunter-gatherer 3y ago
  You mean a class 3 transfer stamp. One can legally own a class 3 firearm in the US, yes. There are extra requirements for background checks, storage and so on. Machine guns in particular are expensive and fall out of most people's purchasing power. Ammunition is another thing entirely. For example, this Galil is 23k[1]. 1. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/985068083 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/985068083
  - technothrasher 3y ago
    > You mean a class 3 transfer stamp. You mean an NFA transfer tax stamp. Class 3 SOT is a status given to certain FFLs to allow them to deal in retail sales of NFA restricted items. It does not refer to the NFA items themselves.
technothrasher 3y ago
> Automatic weapons aren't allowed and I haven't even ever seen one even while being around guns for 20 years casually but not THAT casually. Uh, yes they are, there are just more rules in place for them than other firearms. I've been around guns casually for a similar amount of time, and I've shot fully automatic weapons, and can see them pretty much any time I want at the local range. I don't even live in a "gun friendly" state.
cronix 3y ago
Auto's manufactured pre-1986 are legal for civilian ownership and use, assuming 1) you are legally allowed to own a firearm, 2) It is not illegal to own an automatic weapon in your state/jurisdiction 3) fill out the ATF Form 4, 4) pay the tax stamp and 5) you can afford a $20k+ gun and ammo. They aren't cheap because they are rare. There are approx 700k in existence in the US. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-machine-guns-be-transferred-one-registered-owner-another https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-machine-guns-be-transfer...

Prickle 3y ago

To my understanding, Machine gun licenses are still sold in the US on extremely stringent terms. Some, like the famous American 180 (Otherwise known as the Angry Bees) are grand-fathered in and allowed to be used.

tempfortwitt90 3y ago
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- vkou 3y ago
  If guns deterred crime, red states, and cities in red states wouldn't be topping the violent crime charts in this country. It's a fantasy. The reality is that gun vendors and political pundits do a great business in preying on your fears and anxiety.
  - tempfortwitt90 3y ago
    Criminals going to criminal. Beyond that, a gun in the hands of a law abiding citizen helps reduce crime.
- Prickle 3y ago
  Yea, I have a friend in California. There is usually a shootout of some kind every week after sundown. It's been happening for about 4 years straight at this point. He had to help the police last year due to a small gang bust that happened on his street. It's seems that things are getting desperate, especially since civilians are apparently needed to help. (He does have a short military service record, which is why the request happened at all.)
hunter-gatherer 3y ago
You mean a class 3 transfer stamp. One can legally own a class 3 firearm in the US, yes. There are extra requirements for background checks, storage and so on. Machine guns in particular are expensive and fall out of most people's purchasing power. Ammunition is another thing entirely. For example, this Galil is 23k[1]. 1. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/985068083 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/985068083
- technothrasher 3y ago
  > You mean a class 3 transfer stamp. You mean an NFA transfer tax stamp. Class 3 SOT is a status given to certain FFLs to allow them to deal in retail sales of NFA restricted items. It does not refer to the NFA items themselves.

technothrasher 3y ago

> Automatic weapons aren't allowed and I haven't even ever seen one even while being around guns for 20 years casually but not THAT casually. Uh, yes they are, there are just more rules in place for them than other firearms. I've been around guns casually for a similar amount of time, and I've shot fully automatic weapons, and can see them pretty much any time I want at the local range. I don't even live in a "gun friendly" state.

cronix 3y ago

Auto's manufactured pre-1986 are legal for civilian ownership and use, assuming 1) you are legally allowed to own a firearm, 2) It is not illegal to own an automatic weapon in your state/jurisdiction 3) fill out the ATF Form 4, 4) pay the tax stamp and 5) you can afford a $20k+ gun and ammo. They aren't cheap because they are rare. There are approx 700k in existence in the US. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-machine-guns-be-transferred-one-registered-owner-another https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-machine-guns-be-transfer...