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What’s worse is that CS is a transport simulator that’s heavily biased towards cars; to the point where every new game starts off with a giant unsightly freeway

What’s worse is that CS is a transport simulator that’s heavily biased towards cars; to the point where every new game starts off with a giant unsightly freeway in the middle of your town. I hope CS2 is more agnostic on transport mode. It would be nice to be able to create genuinely car-free cities in the game.

Gigachad 3y ago
That was my problem with the game as well. You don’t really have all that much freedom and there isn’t that much emergent behaviour. You just replay the same road builder scenario where the only interesting part is designing intersections. I’d love to see a city builder game with an extremely powerful policy builder feature. Let me design new rules and see how the city responds. For example, let me implement congestion charges on roads, even if it’s just a text input with its own DSL like you have with minecraft command blocks. Then you could really break out of what the developers designed and start actually doing simulations.
- Stevvo 3y ago
  Cities skylines has the policy builder feature like you describe. One of the policies you can implement is congestion charges. You can set the policies city-wide, or in certain districts. In the latest builds with the newest DLC, you can even ban cars completely with pedestrian only districts/roads.
  - Gigachad 3y ago
    Huh interesting. I haven’t really touched it since 2016 so it’s probably different now.
kmeisthax 3y ago
Imagine a city builder where you can't convincingly recreate the rebuilding of Tokyo after WWII This message brought to you by the "BreadTube[0] but its for cars[1]" gang [0] A segment of very left-wing, libertarian-leaning YouTubers named after The Conquest of Bread. [1] AKA Adam Something, Not Just Bikes, and a few other channels
bombcar 3y ago
CS gets way closer to "car free" than anything but the original SimCity (where you could just use rails instead of roads everywhere) - you need to use the Parks and paths and some pretty sneaky design, but you can get upwards of 80% using walking/transit. Takes a lot of work, however, and some mods.
sidewndr46 3y ago
I actually found it the opposite. The more I intelligently laid out alternative transport the more that it got used, lessening traffic. But yes, the default mode is to just optimize traffic everywhere.
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
It's possible to make a car-free city in CS. It just can't start as one.

Gigachad 3y ago

That was my problem with the game as well. You don’t really have all that much freedom and there isn’t that much emergent behaviour. You just replay the same road builder scenario where the only interesting part is designing intersections. I’d love to see a city builder game with an extremely powerful policy builder feature. Let me design new rules and see how the city responds. For example, let me implement congestion charges on roads, even if it’s just a text input with its own DSL like you have with minecraft command blocks. Then you could really break out of what the developers designed and start actually doing simulations.

Stevvo 3y ago
Cities skylines has the policy builder feature like you describe. One of the policies you can implement is congestion charges. You can set the policies city-wide, or in certain districts. In the latest builds with the newest DLC, you can even ban cars completely with pedestrian only districts/roads.
- Gigachad 3y ago
  Huh interesting. I haven’t really touched it since 2016 so it’s probably different now.

kmeisthax 3y ago

Imagine a city builder where you can't convincingly recreate the rebuilding of Tokyo after WWII This message brought to you by the "BreadTube[0] but its for cars[1]" gang [0] A segment of very left-wing, libertarian-leaning YouTubers named after The Conquest of Bread. [1] AKA Adam Something, Not Just Bikes, and a few other channels

bombcar 3y ago

CS gets way closer to "car free" than anything but the original SimCity (where you could just use rails instead of roads everywhere) - you need to use the Parks and paths and some pretty sneaky design, but you can get upwards of 80% using walking/transit. Takes a lot of work, however, and some mods.

sidewndr46 3y ago

I actually found it the opposite. The more I intelligently laid out alternative transport the more that it got used, lessening traffic. But yes, the default mode is to just optimize traffic everywhere.

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

It's possible to make a car-free city in CS. It just can't start as one.