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They have been using a mixture of AA from around the world. https://archive.fo/zDtjr https://archive.fo/zDtjr https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/19/

They have been using a mixture of AA from around the world. https://archive.fo/zDtjr https://archive.fo/zDtjr https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/19/ukraine-air-defense-systems-patriot/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/19/ukraine-air-... Patriot system has been reportedly consistently shooting down Kinzhal. Not questioning whether or not Russia posses(ed) some great engineers (this would have to include Ukrainians then since this stuff was designed in the USSR) that certainly can do it's job when deployed correctly. Rather that Russia has somehow outclassed the "West" seems rather farfetched here.

cpursley 3y ago
Do you really believe the Patriot is shooting down Kinzhals? Consider the source. And the physics of it all (the math don't work). And the history of the Patriot system (inability to shoot down 1960s scuds, several friendly fire aircraft incidents). It's a 30+ year old system, after all. And did you see the full video of the Patriot blowing two full loads before getting taken out in Kiev by Kinzhals (2:14 hit)?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5lhh_gV1U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5lhh_gV1U
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  > Do you really believe the Patriot is shooting down Kinzhals? Consider the source. And the physics of it all. And the history of the Patriot system (inability to shoot down 1960s scuds, several friendly fire aircraft incidents). It's a 30+ year old system, after all. Yes, its simple hypersonic ballistic missiles are nowhere near new, whats new is hypersonic glide vehicle of which Kinzhal is not. You simply aim for where the missile is going to be in the future and hit to kill it. Also, the Kinzhal is close to 30+ years old as well as it's just a Iskander thats air launched. > And did you see the full video of the Patriot blowing two full loads before getting taken out in Kiev by Kinzhals (2:14 hit)?: You have the video, can you show me a single image of an exploded patriot, you cant because it missed the only damage was from shrapnel from nearby buildings and that was quickly repaired.
- thc-27182 3y ago
  Do you have evidence or facts to show that the news reports on the Patriot system are wrong? Would love to see evidence that the system was destroyed (as in couldn't be repaired; couldn't still do it's mission) and that Kinzhals have not been shot down.

cpursley 3y ago

Do you really believe the Patriot is shooting down Kinzhals? Consider the source. And the physics of it all (the math don't work). And the history of the Patriot system (inability to shoot down 1960s scuds, several friendly fire aircraft incidents). It's a 30+ year old system, after all. And did you see the full video of the Patriot blowing two full loads before getting taken out in Kiev by Kinzhals (2:14 hit)?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5lhh_gV1U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5lhh_gV1U

_kbh_ 3y ago
> Do you really believe the Patriot is shooting down Kinzhals? Consider the source. And the physics of it all. And the history of the Patriot system (inability to shoot down 1960s scuds, several friendly fire aircraft incidents). It's a 30+ year old system, after all. Yes, its simple hypersonic ballistic missiles are nowhere near new, whats new is hypersonic glide vehicle of which Kinzhal is not. You simply aim for where the missile is going to be in the future and hit to kill it. Also, the Kinzhal is close to 30+ years old as well as it's just a Iskander thats air launched. > And did you see the full video of the Patriot blowing two full loads before getting taken out in Kiev by Kinzhals (2:14 hit)?: You have the video, can you show me a single image of an exploded patriot, you cant because it missed the only damage was from shrapnel from nearby buildings and that was quickly repaired.
thc-27182 3y ago
Do you have evidence or facts to show that the news reports on the Patriot system are wrong? Would love to see evidence that the system was destroyed (as in couldn't be repaired; couldn't still do it's mission) and that Kinzhals have not been shot down.