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There are many good female scientists/engineers/mathematicians. Back in Cambridge University, to start off with, there are many female mathematics students. Con

There are many good female scientists/engineers/mathematicians. Back in Cambridge University, to start off with, there are many female mathematics students. Considering achievement by people such as Grace Hopper, I don't think we can blame the domination of men down to sex differences. I would rather girls stand up and bravely join the science community regardless whether these communities are male dominated or not.

gorgoroth666 15y ago
Let's count the heads and the achievements and see how Grace Hopper is irrelevant. But you should have thinked about that by yourself; another example of woman logic I guess.
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- hythloday 15y ago
  FWIW, lorettahe, this is exactly the kind of ad-hominem idiocy/misogyny that women encounter[0] and men never do[1]. There's no one big issue keeping women out of programming, it's just the drip-drip-drip of "you're different from us and we don't want you here" that 50% (then 65%, then 80%, then 95%...) of the candidate pool simply never hear or see unless they make an effort to. [0] This moron got downvoted because downvoting is not socially awkward; how many times do you see a social smack-on-the-wrist in a face-to-face conversation? [1] I'll donate £5 to a charity of your choice for every time someone comes up with an attributed accusation of using "man logic" in a discussion related to programming.
  - nnythm 15y ago
    it's man logic to promote denigrating terms against men in an effort to better the plight of women.
    - hythloday 15y ago
      I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is (is it objecting to the word "misogyny"?)--could you elaborate?
      - nnythm 15y ago
        The idea of encouraging the term of "man logic" is man logic. Misogyny is clearly a problem, but saying, "oh but men are dumb too" is not the right way to go about fixing it.
        icebraining 15y ago
        Where was the encouragement?
        hythloday 15y ago
        I definitely wasn't encouraging the invention of the term "man logic"--I was pointing out that no-one even thinks about calling things "man logic". That's the dichotomy at play here.
lmm 15y ago
I studied mathematics at Cambridge University. While there were some very good female students on the course, it's worth recording that the better colleges had smaller proportions of women; New Hall (all-female) had possibly the worst academic reputation, while Trinity (probably best academically) had two girls among my year of 42.

gorgoroth666 15y ago

Let's count the heads and the achievements and see how Grace Hopper is irrelevant. But you should have thinked about that by yourself; another example of woman logic I guess.

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hythloday 15y ago
FWIW, lorettahe, this is exactly the kind of ad-hominem idiocy/misogyny that women encounter[0] and men never do[1]. There's no one big issue keeping women out of programming, it's just the drip-drip-drip of "you're different from us and we don't want you here" that 50% (then 65%, then 80%, then 95%...) of the candidate pool simply never hear or see unless they make an effort to. [0] This moron got downvoted because downvoting is not socially awkward; how many times do you see a social smack-on-the-wrist in a face-to-face conversation? [1] I'll donate £5 to a charity of your choice for every time someone comes up with an attributed accusation of using "man logic" in a discussion related to programming.
- nnythm 15y ago
  it's man logic to promote denigrating terms against men in an effort to better the plight of women.
  - hythloday 15y ago
    I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is (is it objecting to the word "misogyny"?)--could you elaborate?
    - nnythm 15y ago
      The idea of encouraging the term of "man logic" is man logic. Misogyny is clearly a problem, but saying, "oh but men are dumb too" is not the right way to go about fixing it.
      - icebraining 15y ago
        Where was the encouragement?
      - hythloday 15y ago
        I definitely wasn't encouraging the invention of the term "man logic"--I was pointing out that no-one even thinks about calling things "man logic". That's the dichotomy at play here.

lmm 15y ago

I studied mathematics at Cambridge University. While there were some very good female students on the course, it's worth recording that the better colleges had smaller proportions of women; New Hall (all-female) had possibly the worst academic reputation, while Trinity (probably best academically) had two girls among my year of 42.