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I actually switched away from a UDM after finding out that I could only hit 500 Mbit/s uplink (out of ~930) due to a PPPoE performance bug as there's no hardwar

I actually switched away from a UDM after finding out that I could only hit 500 Mbit/s uplink (out of ~930) due to a PPPoE performance bug as there's no hardware offloading and the old Cortex-A57 cores (in a SoC from a vendor now owned by Amazon, so extremely end-of-life) just couldn't handle that. Now I'm running a Turris Omnia with the bundled OpenWRT fork for router tasks and that seems to work fine.

daydream 3y ago
Why do you need to use PPPoE? Is that an ISP requirement? It seems uncommon nowadays to need PPPoE.
- Fabricio20 3y ago
  Not sure about parent but here in Brazil all ISPs are still using PPPoE even under gigabit fiber, it's a miracle they can find a router that is able to push 800 Mbit under single-threaded pppoe. I've yet to find a router capable of doing proper gigabit that isn't some enteprise machine that costs me a car.
  - wtallis 3y ago
    In cases like yours, the best solution is probably to get an x86-based fanless mini PC built around a laptop CPU. Those can hit quite high single-threaded speeds and have enough resources to handle not just your routing but also light duty as a home server. Chinese brands like Qotom and Topton and a bunch of others are selling them on AliExpress. They're several hundred dollars, but still cheaper than a lot of enterprise gear, and you can get them with 5 or 6 Ethernet interfaces. Getting a separate consumer WiFi access point/router with minimal CPU power of its own is usually cheaper than trying to add an AP-capable WiFi card to a mini PC.
    - ChainOfFools 3y ago
      And if you're going to do that, just run opnsense and (being essentially a distro of full blown BSD) have all the security, flexibility and scalability the machine can provide.
      - Arnavion 3y ago
        OPNsense security updates are delayed from FreeBSD ports by days to weeks.
- olyjohn 3y ago
  It's not uncommon for DSL at all.
  - vetinari 3y ago
    Yeah, but DSL won't have a problem with speed, and routers having too weak cpu to handle it. GPON does.
- ciupicri 3y ago
  A major Romanian ISP uses PPPoE and I'm tempted to say that another one does it too and they're offering gigabit speed.
- ntauthority 3y ago
  Many fiber ISPs here in Europe seem to share the backend infrastructure between DSL and FTTH subscribers and that sadly also involves PPPoE encapsulation.

daydream 3y ago

Why do you need to use PPPoE? Is that an ISP requirement? It seems uncommon nowadays to need PPPoE.

Fabricio20 3y ago
Not sure about parent but here in Brazil all ISPs are still using PPPoE even under gigabit fiber, it's a miracle they can find a router that is able to push 800 Mbit under single-threaded pppoe. I've yet to find a router capable of doing proper gigabit that isn't some enteprise machine that costs me a car.
- wtallis 3y ago
  In cases like yours, the best solution is probably to get an x86-based fanless mini PC built around a laptop CPU. Those can hit quite high single-threaded speeds and have enough resources to handle not just your routing but also light duty as a home server. Chinese brands like Qotom and Topton and a bunch of others are selling them on AliExpress. They're several hundred dollars, but still cheaper than a lot of enterprise gear, and you can get them with 5 or 6 Ethernet interfaces. Getting a separate consumer WiFi access point/router with minimal CPU power of its own is usually cheaper than trying to add an AP-capable WiFi card to a mini PC.
  - ChainOfFools 3y ago
    And if you're going to do that, just run opnsense and (being essentially a distro of full blown BSD) have all the security, flexibility and scalability the machine can provide.
    - Arnavion 3y ago
      OPNsense security updates are delayed from FreeBSD ports by days to weeks.
olyjohn 3y ago
It's not uncommon for DSL at all.
- vetinari 3y ago
  Yeah, but DSL won't have a problem with speed, and routers having too weak cpu to handle it. GPON does.
ciupicri 3y ago
A major Romanian ISP uses PPPoE and I'm tempted to say that another one does it too and they're offering gigabit speed.
ntauthority 3y ago
Many fiber ISPs here in Europe seem to share the backend infrastructure between DSL and FTTH subscribers and that sadly also involves PPPoE encapsulation.