Personally I consider what The Cybernetics Society pulled with regards to their new homepage / the botched (in numerous ways) move of their old homepage to http

Personally I consider what The Cybernetics Society pulled with regards to their new homepage / the botched (in numerous ways) move of their old homepage to https://archive.cybsoc.org/ https://archive.cybsoc.org/ far more atrocious, because with Microsoft and VMware it feels less tragic