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Almost anybody, ADHD diagnosis or not, will feel and perform better on low dose amphetamine like Adderall. It's not surprising there's a demand for it — and act
by erokar 3y ago
Almost anybody, ADHD diagnosis or not, will feel and perform better on low dose amphetamine like Adderall. It's not surprising there's a demand for it — and actors who know how to profit from it.
- zabzonk 3y ago> Almost anybody, ADHD diagnosis or not, will feel and perform better on low dose amphetamine the germans tried this with their troops in ww2 - hint: it didn't go so well for them.
- dylan604 3y agostories of amped up pilots in the US military are common as well. i don't think it was just the germans, so trying to say that was the thing that didn't work well for the germans is just falling flat.
- bluepod4 3y agoNo one said it was just the Germans. But it is well-documented that the Germans distributed amphetamines on a mass scale which had harmful effects. The US did not distribute on a mass scale.
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- sneed_chucker 3y agoGermany didn't lose WWII due to a lack of combat effectiveness among its troops.
- zabzonk 3y agoman to man, no, but arguably they lost it tactically because their troops/pilots kept taking the pills, without rest and getting worse and worse, until they were wiped out, which lost them almost all of their experienced troops/pilots, whereas the western allies rotated their troops/pilots out of combat.
- sneed_chucker 3y ago> but arguably they lost it tactically because their troops/pilots kept taking the pills, I don't think you'll find a single mainstream historian who would agree with that take. Germany lost the war because they lacked the logistics to sustain a multi-front war against the combined military and industrial power of the USSR, the United States, and Great Britain. No amount of pervitin added or subtracted from this equation would have changed that outcome.
- zabzonk 3y agostrategically yes, but i think historians of the luftwaffe would agree that it was fataly dammaged because its pilots never got a rest. didn't help that the rest of german high command, up to hitler himself, were all on pills/injections. you can't imagine eisenhower getting into such a state.
- tmottabr 3y agoBut the pilots were taking pills and never getting rest because the army had to cover two war fronts while lacking the resources to do so.. using pills and not resting enough was a symptom of the problem of having to fight a war in two fronts, not resting and taking pills was not the problem itself..
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- dylan604 3y agoAlmost is a huge caveat for your comment. Maybe it's lack of practice, but whenever I've attempted to work while "medicated" in logic intensive workflows like coding or other things like maths or other sciency stuff, my output is much less coherent. Being "medicated" doing more creative type work is the only time I actually enjoy working in that state.
- rozal 3y agoAnd no surprise how people in this thread rush to defend amphetamine usage. As someone who was diagnosed several times with “adhd” - there is zero science to it. No medical tests to prove its existence. You’ll just get a drug after the first or second visit and who doesn’t want to defend their addiction online? If you want focus, don’t take drugs. Exercise, eat healthy, self-discipline yourself
- grayhatter 3y agoCan I assume you don't believe depression is real either? Can you explain why experts believe there's science behind it?
- falcolas 3y agoThis is pure misinformation, and it would be great if you'd stop spreading it. ADHD is real. It's helped with meds. Denying its existence because of your own bad experience is going to hurt others. Listen to professionals' advice, not self-help advice.
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago> As someone who was diagnosed several times with “adhd” - there is zero science to it. How can you state this so confidently? > You’ll just get a drug after the first or second visit and who doesn’t want to defend their addiction online? Do you know how much people with ADHD hate their meds and want to avoid taking it, but cant? Then they avoid taking it for a few days for a break, but the break turns into 2 weeks of disarray without medication.
- waboremo 3y agoThis is objectively false. There are medical tests to prove its existence, there have also been numerous studies highlighting the differences in ADHD brains and those without it, one of them being far slower development of the pre-frontal cortex. Not just a couple of weeks or months, we're talking years of delay. The FDA has also approved testing to assess for brain wave ratios, specifically theta and beta, in which ADHD brains have much higher count. For most people with ADHD, staying on the drug is the hard part. On top of all of this, there are ADHD drugs that aren't stimulants if one reacts negatively to it. It's not the 70s anymore. Pushing stereotypes is a horrible thing to do, please refrain from it in the future.
- ZeroGravitas 3y agoIs this true? I see it claimed a lot, but if so I'm surprised there isn't more open discussion in places like HN with people saying "I did the research and boosted my productivity by taking drug X". Even if it only makes you feel better, there were people talking about micro dosing LSD for a while when that was fashionable.