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How so? I haven't used VS since a couple of versions ago and never got to know it very well, so I based my above comment on the OPs description; if there's more

by mjdwitt 15y ago

How so? I haven't used VS since a couple of versions ago and never got to know it very well, so I based my above comment on the OPs description; if there's more to the feature than I could easily be wrong.

arethuza 15y ago
The vim command is doing a search and replace over all text - Rename in Visual Studio will restrict the change to class/method/.... name definitions and calls to them.
- mjdwitt 15y ago
  Ah, so instead of having to hand-roll your own really complex regex that would limit the scope every time, VS automatically limits the scope of the renaming for you. That is pretty nice.
  - bronson 15y ago
    It isn't about limiting scope, it's about parsing and understanding the language. A refactor can change every file in your project (for example, renaming a global variable named 'i'). And, yes, it is very nice. Eclipse comes close with Java but, last I tried Vim and Emacs refactoring plugins, they were nowhere near as good or even very discoverable/usable).
  - henrikschroder 15y ago
    No, you operate on different levels. A regex replace works on the text of your source files, a refactoring rename in Visual Studio or Eclipse works on the symbol.
gnaritas 15y ago
Global search and replace casts a wide net, makes tons of mistakes, requires you to inspect every change to ensure it was correct; automated refactorings don't make any mistakes no matter the size of the code base. These two things are vastly different.
- philwelch 15y ago
  You don't review automated refactorings?
  - phpnode 15y ago
    Actually in jetbrains IDEs you preview your automated refactoring, before it happens. It will show you which files will be affected and how, and then you can choose whether to exclude specific instances or not. Code review happens anyway, automated refactor or not
  - gnaritas 15y ago
    You certainly can; however, you'll stop after a while when you realize it actually works.

by mjdwitt 15y ago

arethuza 15y ago

The vim command is doing a search and replace over all text - Rename in Visual Studio will restrict the change to class/method/.... name definitions and calls to them.

mjdwitt 15y ago
Ah, so instead of having to hand-roll your own really complex regex that would limit the scope every time, VS automatically limits the scope of the renaming for you. That is pretty nice.
- bronson 15y ago
  It isn't about limiting scope, it's about parsing and understanding the language. A refactor can change every file in your project (for example, renaming a global variable named 'i'). And, yes, it is very nice. Eclipse comes close with Java but, last I tried Vim and Emacs refactoring plugins, they were nowhere near as good or even very discoverable/usable).
- henrikschroder 15y ago
  No, you operate on different levels. A regex replace works on the text of your source files, a refactoring rename in Visual Studio or Eclipse works on the symbol.

gnaritas 15y ago

Global search and replace casts a wide net, makes tons of mistakes, requires you to inspect every change to ensure it was correct; automated refactorings don't make any mistakes no matter the size of the code base. These two things are vastly different.

philwelch 15y ago
You don't review automated refactorings?
- phpnode 15y ago
  Actually in jetbrains IDEs you preview your automated refactoring, before it happens. It will show you which files will be affected and how, and then you can choose whether to exclude specific instances or not. Code review happens anyway, automated refactor or not
- gnaritas 15y ago
  You certainly can; however, you'll stop after a while when you realize it actually works.