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Against most opinions here, I think something like the metaverse can work. The hardware is just not there yet. Once it's a really lightweight device with good e

by lfkdev 3y ago

Against most opinions here, I think something like the metaverse can work. The hardware is just not there yet. Once it's a really lightweight device with good enough graphics people will use it.

TheOtherHobbes 3y ago
I think you're right. In fact I think permanently connected AR/VR computing is the next phase after mainframe -> desktop -> laptop -> phone. It's a good few years away - at least a decade or so. It won't happen until the hardware becomes stylish smart glasses instead of a clunky headset. And it won't be created by Zuckerberg.
- Mindwipe 3y ago
  Maybe, maybe not. But Meta do have a heck of a patent portfolio for it if it happens in the next decade that will make life very hard for anyone else.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    US Patents expire 20 years after first filing, so in a decade, Facebook's collection will start to enter the public domain.
- BillyTheKing 3y ago
  And the advances in generative AI are a pre-requisite for it.. just imagine people gesturing around in the air trying to create powerpoint presentations using VR/AR glasses - that just doesn't make any sense, no-one will interact with AR that way. For it to really become the next computing model it has to intuitively understand user-intend which has now become possible with generative AI. AR + generativeAI moves the interaction model from imperative to declarative, users will describe what they want (give me 10 slides with red backgrounds) instead of how to do it. imo generativeAI and LLMs will be primarily seen as a UX revolution (in light of AR)
- laratied 3y ago
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criddell 3y ago
Your idea of a working metaverse is probably quite different than what the Meta board would call working. Could they fill it with ads and collect even more data about users? Can they build a big moat around it all and control the hardware and software? That’s necessary for them to collect 30% of every transaction.
checkyoursudo 3y ago
I think this is true too, but the big problem is going to be really, really, really lightweight devices or else projectors that are not wearable at all. Like the weight of probably no more than a baseball cap, or even a pair of ordinary eyeglasses. Heavy, unbalanced, uncomfortable headgear will not be widely adopted no matter how great the metaverse is.

by lfkdev 3y ago

Against most opinions here, I think something like the metaverse can work. The hardware is just not there yet. Once it's a really lightweight device with good enough graphics people will use it.

TheOtherHobbes 3y ago

I think you're right. In fact I think permanently connected AR/VR computing is the next phase after mainframe -> desktop -> laptop -> phone. It's a good few years away - at least a decade or so. It won't happen until the hardware becomes stylish smart glasses instead of a clunky headset. And it won't be created by Zuckerberg.

Mindwipe 3y ago
Maybe, maybe not. But Meta do have a heck of a patent portfolio for it if it happens in the next decade that will make life very hard for anyone else.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  US Patents expire 20 years after first filing, so in a decade, Facebook's collection will start to enter the public domain.
BillyTheKing 3y ago
And the advances in generative AI are a pre-requisite for it.. just imagine people gesturing around in the air trying to create powerpoint presentations using VR/AR glasses - that just doesn't make any sense, no-one will interact with AR that way. For it to really become the next computing model it has to intuitively understand user-intend which has now become possible with generative AI. AR + generativeAI moves the interaction model from imperative to declarative, users will describe what they want (give me 10 slides with red backgrounds) instead of how to do it. imo generativeAI and LLMs will be primarily seen as a UX revolution (in light of AR)
laratied 3y ago
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criddell 3y ago

Your idea of a working metaverse is probably quite different than what the Meta board would call working. Could they fill it with ads and collect even more data about users? Can they build a big moat around it all and control the hardware and software? That’s necessary for them to collect 30% of every transaction.

checkyoursudo 3y ago

I think this is true too, but the big problem is going to be really, really, really lightweight devices or else projectors that are not wearable at all. Like the weight of probably no more than a baseball cap, or even a pair of ordinary eyeglasses. Heavy, unbalanced, uncomfortable headgear will not be widely adopted no matter how great the metaverse is.