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What are you talking about? I'm not trying to pull an underhanded argument, I'm genuinely confused about others' views.

• JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  A rock is unconscious. Is it a 'being'? What is a 'being'? Something you feel bad about treating badly? The argument is circular.
  • nmilo 3y ago
    Plants, bugs, and fish are all "beings" despite having varying degrees of consciousness and ethical allowability-of-harm. But fine. Whatever, my bad. Replace "being" with "entity" and my question still stands.
    • JoeAltmaier 3y ago
      Sorry, I thought that was a critical distinction, my bad. The hard part of this conversation is that 'consciousness' in other than the 'knocked unconscious' sense is a slippery concept. So we're all arguing from different assumptions.