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> The links you posted are inflammatory nonsense What? They are screenshots of his responses! > Are the statistics wrong? They have been purposefully stripp

by d23 3y ago

> The links you posted are inflammatory nonsense What? They are screenshots of his responses! > Are the statistics wrong? They have been purposefully stripped of context and misrepresented to imply that black people are more violent than white people. The author literally worked backwards from the originally expressed percentages to deceive! It's not the statistics that are wrong, it's the way they've been presented. Over the last 10+ years on this site, I have mostly found this to be one of the higher quality places for discussion on the internet, but occasionally over the last few years I have questioned whether this is the right place for me. The responses to this have once again made me rethink whether this community is one I want to be a part of. I am genuinely revolted.

slily 3y ago
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- d23 3y ago
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  - dang 3y ago
    Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? and please not use HN for ideological battle, regardless of what you're battling for or against? You've unfortunately been doing these things a lot lately. They're not what the site is for, and they destroy what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- dang 3y ago
  It looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not allowed here and we ban accounts that do it, regardless of what they're battling for or against, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
concordDance 3y ago
Are you questioning whether this is the right place for you based more on quality of discourse or on the leanings of the views expressed? I must confess the quality of discourse seems to have gone down over the last few years. Feels like we've had a migration from reddit.
- d23 3y ago
  > Are you questioning whether this is the right place for you based more on quality of discourse or on the leanings of the views expressed? Both. I am uninterested in hanging out with the 13/52 crowd.
  - concordDance 3y ago
    Having looked up what that means: am I missing something or is it the case that you don't want to interact with people who mention facts that can be used to support unpleasant narratives? Because if so, that seems like a way of ending up with a very biased view of the world... while the murder ratio fact might be old news to you and something that shouldn't be dwelled on, there's bound to be one of the 10,000[1] just learning it for the first time and sometimes you'd be one of those 10,000 unless you cut yourself off from it. [1] https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/
    - d23 3y ago
      You are missing that this is one of many racist signalers and memes white supremacists and nazis use to justify their hatred. They're based on incomplete and misleading statistics designed to manipulate people without critical thinking skills.
      - concordDance 3y ago
        The best solution there seems to be teaching people critical thinking, statistics and how to look things up tbh... rather than cutting them off from these sorts of figures. (I've personally been advocating that for a decade to anyone who'll sit still for a minute)

by d23 3y ago

slily 3y ago

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d23 3y ago
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- dang 3y ago
  Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? and please not use HN for ideological battle, regardless of what you're battling for or against? You've unfortunately been doing these things a lot lately. They're not what the site is for, and they destroy what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
dang 3y ago
It looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not allowed here and we ban accounts that do it, regardless of what they're battling for or against, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

concordDance 3y ago

Are you questioning whether this is the right place for you based more on quality of discourse or on the leanings of the views expressed? I must confess the quality of discourse seems to have gone down over the last few years. Feels like we've had a migration from reddit.

d23 3y ago
> Are you questioning whether this is the right place for you based more on quality of discourse or on the leanings of the views expressed? Both. I am uninterested in hanging out with the 13/52 crowd.
- concordDance 3y ago
  Having looked up what that means: am I missing something or is it the case that you don't want to interact with people who mention facts that can be used to support unpleasant narratives? Because if so, that seems like a way of ending up with a very biased view of the world... while the murder ratio fact might be old news to you and something that shouldn't be dwelled on, there's bound to be one of the 10,000[1] just learning it for the first time and sometimes you'd be one of those 10,000 unless you cut yourself off from it. [1] https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/
  - d23 3y ago
    You are missing that this is one of many racist signalers and memes white supremacists and nazis use to justify their hatred. They're based on incomplete and misleading statistics designed to manipulate people without critical thinking skills.
    - concordDance 3y ago
      The best solution there seems to be teaching people critical thinking, statistics and how to look things up tbh... rather than cutting them off from these sorts of figures. (I've personally been advocating that for a decade to anyone who'll sit still for a minute)