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AI tools are absolutely useless once you get past any initial stage in a software development cycle They just can't comprehend what needs to be done even if al

AI tools are absolutely useless once you get past any initial stage in a software development cycle They just can't comprehend what needs to be done even if all that's required are 2 lines of code However, we keep seeing posts from people who don't know html or how to create a chrome extension paternalizing on how we can be much more productive with AI tools. Last I heard a CEO was demanding dev increased productivity or firing some devs because he daw a Youtube video on how easy it is to create a website now

TeMPOraL 3y ago
> AI tools are absolutely useless once you get past any initial stage in a software development cycle Not sure I agree. The initial stage will be the one where most of high-level, broad thinking happens. Once the cycle starts in the earnest, more and more time is spent on the usual software drudge work. I find GPT-4 excels at helping with this kind of coding. I'm reserving judgement on the higher-level / more abstract aspects of software engineering, as I haven't had a chance to try it. My suspicion is that GPT-4 will excel at helping you think through an issue interactively, but may have trouble actually coming up with whole designs on its own, not unless you spend so much effort crafting a context for it ("getting it up to speed" on your problem space) that you'll quickly find better designs in the process. > Last I heard a CEO was demanding dev increased productivity or firing some devs because he daw a Youtube video on how easy it is to create a website now With wix, squarespace and other brands I consciously try to forget about (in proportion to how much advertising spam from them I see, despite using adblockers everywhere I can), plenty of web devs are having a hard time justifying their salaries. At this point, AI tools aren't even competing with them - they're competing with wix, squarespace, et al.! Still, I hope that CEOs replacing workers with ChatGPT are a myth. If not, that's IMO an idiot thing to do. Not because ChatGPT won't manage to do the job - but because the only model in existence, that has capabilities required to effectively replace humans in some jobs, is owned by a single company, has been available for only two-three months so far, and that's in a limited beta. We don't know yet what the limits of GPT-4 are, how to effectively use it, and at any point OpenAI can just take their access away. At this point, it's a great tool to use while it's available, but it's not something you want to hinge your project/business on mid-to-long-term.

TeMPOraL 3y ago

> AI tools are absolutely useless once you get past any initial stage in a software development cycle Not sure I agree. The initial stage will be the one where most of high-level, broad thinking happens. Once the cycle starts in the earnest, more and more time is spent on the usual software drudge work. I find GPT-4 excels at helping with this kind of coding. I'm reserving judgement on the higher-level / more abstract aspects of software engineering, as I haven't had a chance to try it. My suspicion is that GPT-4 will excel at helping you think through an issue interactively, but may have trouble actually coming up with whole designs on its own, not unless you spend so much effort crafting a context for it ("getting it up to speed" on your problem space) that you'll quickly find better designs in the process. > Last I heard a CEO was demanding dev increased productivity or firing some devs because he daw a Youtube video on how easy it is to create a website now With wix, squarespace and other brands I consciously try to forget about (in proportion to how much advertising spam from them I see, despite using adblockers everywhere I can), plenty of web devs are having a hard time justifying their salaries. At this point, AI tools aren't even competing with them - they're competing with wix, squarespace, et al.! Still, I hope that CEOs replacing workers with ChatGPT are a myth. If not, that's IMO an idiot thing to do. Not because ChatGPT won't manage to do the job - but because the only model in existence, that has capabilities required to effectively replace humans in some jobs, is owned by a single company, has been available for only two-three months so far, and that's in a limited beta. We don't know yet what the limits of GPT-4 are, how to effectively use it, and at any point OpenAI can just take their access away. At this point, it's a great tool to use while it's available, but it's not something you want to hinge your project/business on mid-to-long-term.