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Prove such a simulation can be created with actual hardware, taking relativity into account.

haneul 3y ago
If you were to try to build such a simulation, given the natural limits of real hardware, wouldn’t some form of relativity be a necessary feature of the simulation to avoid segfaults, rather than something simply to take into account while constructing the hardware?
- garbagecoder 3y ago
  In what way is that not "taking it into account?"
  - haneul 3y ago
    In the sense that rather than something to take into account while building the system, it is an emergent property from the fact that any such system has resource limitations.
pillefitz 3y ago
You mean silicon-based hardware? What role does relativity play here?
- garbagecoder 3y ago
  If all your transistors update instantly at any distance, you have less of a problem, but you still have one.
  - FredPret 3y ago
    You don't have to simulate in real-time
    - garbagecoder 3y ago
      No, you don't, but if you're taking all the data at a "subatomic level" you will have so much memory required than unless you have some kind of memory I haven't heard of, it will need to take that into account because the memory alone will have a volume of significant light-time dimensions. You need something like 3 petabytes just to model the neurons. There are 100 trillion atoms in a neuron. And he said subatomic, so you need some significant factor of that, plus you have to save some state. So 300 trillion petabytes+ might be a memory the size of the moon. I think relativity does matter at that scale. Also, you will probably have to mine silicon asteroids and invent an AI factory to make the memory, and power it with what, fusion? So yeah, just model the brain at the subatomic level, bro, it's easy bro, and you're just a naysayer for saying it can't be done, bro. But, please. If you have a solution to this, don't post it on HN, file a patent. Not just for the model, but for the revolutionary new dense memory, the location of silicon asteroids, the planetary memory factory, the power source for it, and so on.

If you were to try to build such a simulation, given the natural limits of real hardware, wouldn’t some form of relativity be a necessary feature of the simulation to avoid segfaults, rather than something simply to take into account while constructing the hardware?

garbagecoder 3y ago
In what way is that not "taking it into account?"
- haneul 3y ago
  In the sense that rather than something to take into account while building the system, it is an emergent property from the fact that any such system has resource limitations.

pillefitz 3y ago

You mean silicon-based hardware? What role does relativity play here?

garbagecoder 3y ago
If all your transistors update instantly at any distance, you have less of a problem, but you still have one.
- FredPret 3y ago
  You don't have to simulate in real-time
  - garbagecoder 3y ago
    No, you don't, but if you're taking all the data at a "subatomic level" you will have so much memory required than unless you have some kind of memory I haven't heard of, it will need to take that into account because the memory alone will have a volume of significant light-time dimensions. You need something like 3 petabytes just to model the neurons. There are 100 trillion atoms in a neuron. And he said subatomic, so you need some significant factor of that, plus you have to save some state. So 300 trillion petabytes+ might be a memory the size of the moon. I think relativity does matter at that scale. Also, you will probably have to mine silicon asteroids and invent an AI factory to make the memory, and power it with what, fusion? So yeah, just model the brain at the subatomic level, bro, it's easy bro, and you're just a naysayer for saying it can't be done, bro. But, please. If you have a solution to this, don't post it on HN, file a patent. Not just for the model, but for the revolutionary new dense memory, the location of silicon asteroids, the planetary memory factory, the power source for it, and so on.