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https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-reaches-15-billion-settlement-daimler-ag-over-emissions-cheating-mercedes-benz-diesel https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-reache

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-reaches-15-billion-settlement-daimler-ag-over-emissions-cheating-mercedes-benz-diesel https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-reaches-15-billion-settlem... Likely being forced to, a reminder this is the same company that deliberately and consistently cheated on emissions tests in the USA.

oblio 3y ago
It's still a net positive that they're doing this.
- sandworm101 3y ago
  Unless this is cover for something else. Unless this is just greenwashing. Unless this project pulls money in that would otherwise have gone to more effective projects. Commercial EV charge points are great but the low hanging fruit remains the vast numbers of private vehicles not currently served by charging schemes. Those people are basically everyone who doesn't own a house with a garage where they can install the bespoke charger for their particular EV.
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    > the bespoke charger for their particular EV. What EVs would they be. At least in Europe all new EVs use CCS and most of the older ones used Type-2. They can all be charged from an ordinary 230 V, 10 A domestic supply; Schuko in Europe or BS1363 in the UK (and Ireland?).
    - rippercushions 3y ago
      Electric trucks have huge batteries and will need super-fast chargers to "refuel" on the road, you can't just plug them into an ordinary outlet. (Well, I guess you can, you just literally won't get anywhere.) The good news is that there's an emerging standard for this, so hopefully Daimler adopts it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawatt_Charging_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawatt_Charging_System
      - kwhitefoot 3y ago
        The remark I was responding to was clearly talking about private cars not commercial vehicles: > the low hanging fruit remains the vast numbers of private vehicles not currently served by charging schemes. Those people are basically everyone who doesn't own a house with a garage where they can install the bespoke charger for their particular EV.

oblio 3y ago

It's still a net positive that they're doing this.

sandworm101 3y ago
Unless this is cover for something else. Unless this is just greenwashing. Unless this project pulls money in that would otherwise have gone to more effective projects. Commercial EV charge points are great but the low hanging fruit remains the vast numbers of private vehicles not currently served by charging schemes. Those people are basically everyone who doesn't own a house with a garage where they can install the bespoke charger for their particular EV.
- kwhitefoot 3y ago
  > the bespoke charger for their particular EV. What EVs would they be. At least in Europe all new EVs use CCS and most of the older ones used Type-2. They can all be charged from an ordinary 230 V, 10 A domestic supply; Schuko in Europe or BS1363 in the UK (and Ireland?).
  - rippercushions 3y ago
    Electric trucks have huge batteries and will need super-fast chargers to "refuel" on the road, you can't just plug them into an ordinary outlet. (Well, I guess you can, you just literally won't get anywhere.) The good news is that there's an emerging standard for this, so hopefully Daimler adopts it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawatt_Charging_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawatt_Charging_System
    - kwhitefoot 3y ago
      The remark I was responding to was clearly talking about private cars not commercial vehicles: > the low hanging fruit remains the vast numbers of private vehicles not currently served by charging schemes. Those people are basically everyone who doesn't own a house with a garage where they can install the bespoke charger for their particular EV.